Phantom Makita 7000/9501/9500
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What is the "309 chassis"?
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Dpc7000 = 309
dpc9500 = 343
dpc9500 = 343
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123-143 Sachs Dolmar.
The 309 was 70cc, same as the 123. They sold a bunch of the 70cc variety under Sachs Dolmar, Wacker, and I have one with an MTA label.
Heavy saws for 70cc, but not bad at 95cc.
The real phantom of SD cut-off saws is the 310 based off the 153.
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Anyone ever seen one of these phantom cutoff saws???? I was wondering if anyone can confirm if the 7000/9500 were built on a dolmar 309 chassis????
Must say I've never seen a Makita, but it sure looks like a 309 in blue.
47mm bore x 40mm stroke.
Yes, you could put a 133 (52mm) or 143 (55mm) cylinder on it.
Do keep the governed carb, those abrasive wheels would not like 12,000 RPM!
Oh, I don't have one of these... I just posted a pic I found out on the internet to see if anyone had ever seen one. If I got my hands on one it wouldn't stay a cut off saw for long. I've seen the 309's before and they seem to be easy enough to swap back to chainsaw form. Mike over in Cedar Rapids converted his 309 back to a chainsaw and is planning on making a pipe for his... I have to wonder how a 9501 version would run with a little porting and a pipe... LOL...
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Oh, I don't have one of these... I just posted a pic I found out on the internet to see if anyone had ever seen one. If I got my hands on one it wouldn't stay a cut off saw for long. I've seen the 309's before and they seem to be easy enough to swap back to chainsaw form. Mike over in Cedar Rapids converted his 309 back to a chainsaw and is planning on making a pipe for his... I have to wonder how a 9501 version would run with a little porting and a pipe... LOL...
Actually it would be worth just as much (or more) as a cut-off saw.
They would be a PITA to change over, unless you don't care about bar oil:hmm3grin2orange:
meh... I'm not into cutoff saws. I would keep the cut off portion incase I would ever want to change it back but there isn't anything hard about installing and plumbing a 123-133 oiler system and swaping the oil tank plug with a cap. :smile2:
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Yes Sir,
the machining would be something that would take a few hours, if you can't do it yourself, doubt if one could afford a one off set-up like that. Every one I've seen (7) had no machining for an oil pump.
you got pics to show what needs done? I have a couple machinist friends that could help... is it mill or lathe work? Keep in mind it wouldn't take much to put an old style thumb button to do manual oiling. :msp_thumbsup: I kinda have a thing for Kita's so a little extra love to make a 1-off saw would be worth it for the "WTF!" looks! LOL!
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Those things are pigs at 70cc. Put a 55mm P&C on one and it's a whole 'nother story.
Basically you only need to finish the machining work. Sachs Dolmar were not marketing geniuses. But their engineering was rock solid.
Why waste the machining time when it wasn't needed? The boss under the clutch needs machined flat for the pump housing, it needs a worm gear installed at the proper depth.
You will need the pump housing, pick-up lines, grommets and last (but not least) If you look above and to the right of the adjuster (on the saw models) you will see a check ball, that is where they drill the passages for the pump to oiling slot.
Guide bar plates will be in order as well as a few holes here and there. Yes Sir, so easy a caveman could do it.
If time is money it sure ain't worth it, if it's just a labor of love, go for it.
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That's a pretty good description and pics but since I've never been inside one of these things I'm not 100% on what kind of machining I'll be needing done... Sorry kinda a lil kid you gotta take by the hand. However, I am assuming that the pictures are of the chainsaw version???? If I have pics of the chainsaw version then it will be apparent (without arrows pointing stuff out in pic) when I tear one of these down.
So I assume the 55mm kit is a dual close port cylinder at about 95cc's??? kinda thinking ahead... Could I plug the governed in the carb like I did on the 076 Stihl or is it better to just swap carbs for a non-governed model? I assume any clutch and oiler system from a 123-143 will work???
So I assume the 55mm kit is a dual close port cylinder at about 95cc's??? kinda thinking ahead... Could I plug the governed in the carb like I did on the 076 Stihl or is it better to just swap carbs for a non-governed model? I assume any clutch and oiler system from a 123-143 will work???
