Silvey 510 grinder VS Oregon 511A grinder

[Teddy.Scout]

Any one have any thoughts such as pros and cons.
Thanks

 

[Philbert]

Any one have any thoughts such as pros and cons. Thanks

I have only used the Oregon style grinders - looked at the Silveys in the catalogs, and read comments here on A.S.

How much chain are you grinding? How good is 'good enough'? Is the Silvey worth 3 times the cost to you? Does it do something that the Oregon does not?

I have been very pleased with my 511A, and I know that a lot of shops use them - sometimes they have one for each size wheel due to volume. Pretty easy to get parts for the Oregon grinders and I know that it would be easy to re-sell it if I don't need/want it anymore. Felt good about getting the $300 Italian version over the $100 copies. I guess that if I personally had the extra $700 I would buy another, new saw.

Some people feel that a motor that rotates in both directions gives a better grind. Some have re-wired their 511A motors to do that too.

Just my thoughts.

Philbert

 

[046]

have a Silvey 300 and Oregon 511A

been grinding with Silvey for several years and really like it.
very precise adjustments is Silvey's hallmark.
nice being able to grind both directions to control where burr ends up.

had a brand new 511A for sometime but missing chainholder.
finally found a used 511A for parts. now my new 511A is complete.
will be setting it up soon. first impressions are Oregon's controls are not as refined.

Oregon 511A will probably end up grinding equal to Silvey.

Silvey wheels are nice ..

 

[Teddy.Scout]

Thanks Philbert and 046!!
Appreciate the info!!!!

 

[046]

didn't want to pop anyone's bubble, but the Silvey is worlds apart higher in quality.

where the 511A may have an advantage is size of motor over the older model like mine.
Silvey 300 is a bit low on hp, which the 510 upgrades. but if you don't go too fast, Silvey 300 will go all day.

edit: ID on older model Silvey 300 is marked on base of grinder
you should find 300 + serial number. yes Silvey 300 is a round grinder.
Simington 450 pictured above with grinding wheel horizontal, is a square grinder.

 

[Philbert]

didn't want to pop anyone's bubble, but the Silvey is worlds apart higher in quality.

That's what I hear. I would like the opportunity to try one someday. Love to find one cheap at a garage sale too!

But the value question also comes in if the OP is buying new. The Silvey square grinders offer something that the 511A does not do. For commercial work, maybe there is an advantage.

But even if I was setting up a small shop for a side business sharpening chain and had $1,000, I would buy 3 of the 511A grinders and keep one set up for 1/8, 3/16, and 1/4 (rakers) wheels. If it was for my personal use, I would buy one 511A and a nice 50-60cc saw. Another way to spend his money would be to buy a 511A and a couple of ABN / CBN wheels at $200 a pop!

Philbert

 

[Teddy.Scout]

I decided to keep my 511A and sell the Silvery and the other 511A.
Don't plan on becoming a file shop!!!

 

[046]

why don't cha post a few pic's of the Silvey and Oregon 511A for sale.

odds are a LOT of folks would jump at a chance to purchase a Silvey at a decent price.

I decided to keep my 511A and sell the Silvery and the other 511A.
Don't plan on becoming a file shop!!!

 

[Eccentric]

why don't cha post a few pic's of the Silvey and Oregon 511A for sale.

odds are a LOT of folks would jump at a chance to purchase a Silvey at a decent price.

Yep. And you never know what you might get in a trade deal Matt......

 

[046]

Silvey rarely comes up for sale and hold their resale values well.

gotta disagree with buying 3x 511A + CBN wheels. I'd go with one Silvey and std wheels. then upgrade to CBN later after the Silvey makes $$$. you can grind two sizes using a thinner wheel.

have eliminated .325 chains and only use 3/8 and .404. one wheel does both.
do order the real Silvey wheels. they seen to be higher quality and costs about the same.

That's what I hear. I would like the opportunity to try one someday. Love to find one cheap at a garage sale too!

But the value question also comes in if the OP is buying new. The Silvey square grinders offer something that the 511A does not do. For commercial work, maybe there is an advantage.

But even if I was setting up a small shop for a side business sharpening chain and had $1,000, I would buy 3 of the 511A grinders and keep one set up for 1/8, 3/16, and 1/4 (rakers) wheels. If it was for my personal use, I would buy one 511A and a nice 50-60cc saw. Another way to spend his money would be to buy a 511A and a couple of ABN / CBN wheels at $200 a pop!

Philbert

 

[Genius.]

I started out with the NT grinder, I was not impressed with it at all. I looked at the 511, but.....


I got a Silvey. Best money spent. Within a year I had it payed for by grinding chains, it is very consistant, plus with the larger wheel and it spin's slower it is quite hard to heat a tooth up.



Just bite the bullet and get the 510, you will not regret it. While if you get the 511A you will always be wondering if the Silvey would do a better job. You will never have those thoughts with the Silvey.

 

[Teddy.Scout]

Pics comimng!!!!
And yes vids!!

 

[john taliaferro]

I would be interested in the 511

 

[Teddy.Scout]

I will post them in the AM!

 

[Philbert]

So this thread caused me to look at the 510 grinders on the Silvey website. It says that the 10 degree angle, used on most chisel chains, is 'built in'. Does that mean that I cannot grind chain (semi-chisel) at 0 degree tilt?

Thanks

Philbert

 

[Teddy.Scout]

I am still scratching my head with that as well.
Here is my Silvery I am trying to sell.

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[NORMZILLA44]

You left one out Matt V.S handfile LOL! What's up buddy! P.S just sent you a REP. And well deserve'd because you have alway's been a stand up guy, and alway's willing to help. So thank's.

 

[Teddy.Scout]

You left one out Matt V.S handfile LOL! What's up buddy! P.S just sent you a REP. And well deserve'd because you have alway's been a stand up guy, and alway's willing to help. So thank's.

Sup Norm!
Appreciate it!!!

P.S. I SUCK at hand filing!
I have just enough skill to finish the log! LOL!!!

 

[046]

note this is for the Silvey 300 grinder ... Silvey is known for adjustability.
here's a pic showing pivot, which moves both direction. allowing what ever angle is desired.

So this thread caused me to look at the 510 grinders on the Silvey website. It says that the 10 degree angle, used on most chisel chains, is 'built in'. Does that mean that I cannot grind chain (semi-chisel) at 0 degree tilt?

Thanks

Philbert

 

[Philbert]

note this is for the Silvey 300 grinder ... Silvey is known for adjustability.
here's a pic showing pivot, which moves both direction. allowing what ever angle is desired.

046,

Nice photo - Thanks. I appreciate all the info on the Silveys, as I have never seen or used one. Only know what's in the catalogs, on the websites, or comments posted here. I think that their catalog could do a better job distinushing between their several square ground chisel grinders to let people understand the differences.

But back to the fixed 10 degree angle, that catalog description was specific to the model 510, their current round ground grinder offering. I don't know if that applies to any other models.

Is the 300 a discontinued model? I did not see it on the Silvey Website.

Philbert