Messy Woodpile / Bad Neighbor II

[Squirrel's Drey]

I'll start from the original photo posted here:

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthre...=74451&page=10

Chowdozer - local fire marshall contacted

Here is another winner:

[RCR 3 EVER]

Our ordinance for fire pits needs several feet of clear area around a fire pit and not within 25 ft of property line or 50 ft from a structure.
WE once had terrible neighbors that tried to goad me into fights and would actually come to my door and yell at me after they trampled over and mowed over 20 young trees with their snowmobiles on my property. The sheriff was at their house numerous times on my complaint. They were even abusing a dog and everyone knows that is a not allowed around me!

Back to fire ordinance they lit a bonfire to a very large brush pile one time with gasoline. Embers were flying everywhere on people's homes. The fire trucks came, they were socked with $1000 fine+costs. They never paid it sheriff sat in our drive & watched their house until they made a stupid mistake (normal routine for them) like come home with a stolen car with non matching plates. Now they are evicted & in jail on Grand theft auto and other stuff +warrants for fire.

Bottom line it may take time but bad neighbors eventually get it in the end.

[Squirrel's Drey]

Smoking lawnmowers & R.C. helicopters I figure would only bring an outright confrontation. I am at the point where something like that would not end up in my favor, nor my families - I can definitely see myself in debt to the state for several years.
I have contacted:
Fire Marshall
Town enforcement
DEC
Local civic association

Neighbor's case was before the judge, fined couple of hundred dollars and a conditional discharge to clean up the property. Property remains the same, he will not allow any town inspectors or ECO's on his lot which makes the case difficult. With this photo below, the rotten rounds have turned the ground septic killing the grass on my side of the fence.

[TreeCo]

Put in a privacy fence and let your neighbor live in peace!

[Squirrel's Drey]

TreeCo, I thought about the fence idea for five years. Came to the conclusion that I did not want to feel like a caged in dog on my own property.
Privacy fences make good neighbors, so a six foot high fence x 360' would run me around between 9K-12K, add the cost of permits and the footwork to obtain the towns approval.
Current "Arborist Next Door" drops some large rounds onto the new fence which I paid for (since it's my idea) and breaks the fence, now I have to look at the broken fence, what's behind it, and my smaller bank account from the installation.

[discounthunter]

Originally Posted by Squirrel's Drey

Smoking lawnmowers & R.C. helicopters I figure would only bring an outright confrontation. I am at the point where something like that would not end up in my favor, nor my families - I can definitely see myself in debt to the state for several years.
I have contacted:
Fire Marshall
Town enforcement
DEC
Local civic association

Neighbor's case was before the judge, fined couple of hundred dollars and a conditional discharge to clean up the property. Property remains the same, he will not allow any town inspectors or ECO's on his lot which makes the case difficult. With this photo below, the rotten rounds have turned the ground septic killing the grass on my side of the fence.

SD i understand your issues with a neighbor. i not sure about the rotting wood turning the ground septic? i know degomposing wood does soak up a lot of nitrogen but to make the ground septic? it might be your own tree causing this ,i noticed you have one in the left hand side of the picture and also to look at the ground i see moss, which because of certain trees thirst for water moss is usually the only thing that will grow.

i do simpathize with you on having to deal with looking at the mess .

[Rftreeman]

I have one question............did your neighbor's property look like that before you moved in?

[TreeCo]

Originally Posted by Squirrel's Drey

TreeCo, I thought about the fence idea for five years. Came to the conclusion that I did not want to feel like a caged in dog on my own property.
Privacy fences make good neighbors, so a six foot high fence x 360' would run me around between 9K-12K, add the cost of permits and the footwork to obtain the towns approval.
Current "Arborist Next Door" drops some large rounds onto the new fence which I paid for (since it's my idea) and breaks the fence, now I have to look at the broken fence, what's behind it, and my smaller bank account from the installation.

It looks like your neighbor is using his property to make some income. I don't see a whole lot wrong with that. If you don't like how his place looks then don't look over there! Maybe you would be happier on a city lot?

[treemandan]

Originally Posted by TreeCo

It looks like your neighbor is using his property to make some income. I don't see a whole lot wrong with that. If you don't like how his place looks then don't look over there! Maybe you would be happier on a city lot?

Interesting bit:

My township is looking to get permits for home based business's. I suppose they want their cut.

Also they just stopped leaf and debris burning which I thought a good idea. I was over at Tony's the other day, that place is just a mess, crap everywhere, he dumps a bunch of trash from wood splitting into an old oil tank, pours gas on it and sets it afire, He uses my blower to get it going. The smoke is wafting through everybodies place. You should have seen it. I don't think that is right.

[Squirrel's Drey]

discounthunter:
unsplit rounds sat on the fence line for three years, soil is definetly septic. I can bounce it back with some Espoma, may take a season or two.

Rftreeman:
Good question!
I closed on the house in the middle of the winter, little bit of snow cover. Thought the boats were on trailers, saw a lot of rounds stacked in the middle of the yard and a splitter. I was told that the guy next door sells firewood during the heating season, no noise - no mess - no fuss.
I figure to myself, 'Hey the chap must be a hard worker, I know what's it like to split and stack'. Come spring as the snow melts I see a different picture, not as bad as the photos depict - but it concerns me.

I figure to myself, 'Hey the chap must be a hard worker, I know what's it like to split and stack'.

Well as time goes on I see alot of landscaping trucks droping off the days rounds, and little spliting & stacking. Alot of jaw and no paw, now I know it only counts as firewood if it's split and stacked in the same season, but for five years?

Patience finally ran out when I was overun with feral cats and the view, and a realtor appraising the house (real market) for 100K less than I purchased it for. Realtor said that due to the neighbor's activities I would take the hit on the sale.

I had the neighbor quote me a tree pruning job which required a climber, climbing I don't do. So I accept his price, throw in an extra Franklin for the crew for lunch. Job paid in full & in advance

Well the job barely got started and never got finished, since then I use another arborist if the job entails climbing. Since all of this went down I've been on the warpath, tomahawk - headress and all (ain't no peace pipe here)
Just showed me alot about this guy's work ethic and all.

I figure if either my wife or myself (or both) of us were to expire tomorrow, and the last one standing had to sell the house quick, this guy's wood cutting mess would cost 100K in the pocket!

Again, please take your neighbors into consideration when spliting and stackin'

Here's Bunker Hill:

[BlackenedTimber]

With all due respect, I have seen alot of places that look ALOT worse than that. Maybe the guy is a scumbag, I dont know him, and you live next to him, so you probly know better than I do, but all in all, it's not immaculate, but it's not horrible either. I have worked on some people's properties that look like junk yards.

I am cutting timber off of 80 acre in SE Oklahoma right now, and the women that owns it might as well have a junk yard. Theres about 30 cars that I have counted so far, 2 destroyed trailer houses, an F600 (which I am kinda interested in...) and about 100 tons of steel beams, aluminum siding, and other crap that may or may not be worth something to someone other than me. Oh, and the 100+ felled cedar trees that are atleast 5 years old and rotting, that she insists are worth something.

I understand you gotta live next to this, but all in all, it's not that bad.

Just my 2 cents.

T

[treemandan]

Originally Posted by BlackenedTimber

With all due respect, I have seen alot of places that look ALOT worse than that. Maybe the guy is a scumbag, I dont know him, and you live next to him, so you probly know better than I do, but all in all, it's not immaculate, but it's not horrible either. I have worked on some people's properties that look like junk yards.

I am cutting timber off of 80 acre in SE Oklahoma right now, and the women that owns it might as well have a junk yard. Theres about 30 cars that I have counted so far, 2 destroyed trailer houses, an F600 (which I am kinda interested in...) and about 100 tons of steel beams, aluminum siding, and other crap that may or may not be worth something to someone other than me. Oh, and the 100+ felled cedar trees that are atleast 5 years old and rotting, that she insists are worth something.

I understand you gotta live next to this, but all in all, it's not that bad.
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I agreeone.

Just my 2 cents.

T

I agree, its just a mid level craphole, not a full bore dungheap.

[newsawtooth]

Sounds like you really wanted to live a little closer to the Hamptons or Manhattan. The middle ground is for the proletariat.

[treemandan]

Originally Posted by newsawtooth

Sounds like you really wanted to live a little closer to the Hamptons or Manhattan. The middle ground is for the proletariat.

" If there is hope, it lies in the Proles"
No seriously, that place is a craphole, a dumpsite pure a simple. If the owner of that property feels it Ok that everybody should have to put up with his mess then he is a hack with no pride. Clean it up, make it look nice, respectable. Not like no Sanford and Son BS, like some welfare collectin mofo.

[newsawtooth]

"Proles and animals are free"

Some of that wood looks split, maybe not stacked. Stacking is just pageantry anyway.