rottin maple tops

murphy4trees · 10-02-2009, 02:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydpwMDiEEL4

couple little tidbits here... mighty dead tree... or shoudl we call it symplastless? lots of bacteria and fungus living in there... not to mention poison ivy

MS TreeMonkey · 10-02-2009, 05:08 AM

Good vid - not allergic to the poison ivy?!?! I'm sure Ekka is going to rip you a new one, though, because of something like not having a chinstrap on your helmet or for wearing blue jeans instead of chainsaw pants - maybe even for wearing an orange shirt instead of a hi-vis yellow!

I've climbed a few trees like that (don't have a bucket) but usually have a line in another tree nearby depending on location!

ozzy42 · 10-02-2009, 05:40 AM

I think the big pucker factor had to be descending the tree with a face and back cut made in that nasty bugger.
Had to be a nervous few seconds.

Looks like you handled it pretty well. A nasty dead one for sure.

One of the worst hack jobs I ever witnessed was a couple of lawn jockies
were topping a 75 ft norfolk island pine next to a mobile home.
The "climber" went up their 28 ft ladder[no gear at all] ,placed a rope about 15 ft above that ,made a face ,and back cut ,then ran down the ladder ,and out to the street to help the other guy pull on the rope.
Next problem was on their 2nd or 3rd yank, the rope came untied.
The "climber"then had to go back up the ladder and up on the already cut top to retie the rope.

I watched all of this in total disbelief from the canopy of another tree around the corner from them.They managed to pull it over on the next attempt somehow.
They underbid me on that job by $100 ,but the HO came close to losing their home.
The park manager refered them because they trim the palms there every year with their 25 ft bucket truck[old cable truck].
I guess that made them "QUALIFIED".

Didn't mean to hi jack your thread.It just reminded me of that job.
Nor am a comparing your work to that of the L...Js, as their tree could have easily and safely been climbed and lowered in pcs.

murphy4trees · 10-03-2009, 02:16 AM

you know its always tough tom tell exactly what is going on from a video..
Tree to the left looks relatively tall because it is closer to the camera.. No way to use any other tree for a satelite tie in point..

And the last lead was a heavy backleaner... so it was leaning hard away from me as I was descending...

ForTheAction · 10-28-2009, 01:20 PM

I learned a lot from that vid. I've searched your vids on you tube before. Lot of info.

I was wondering about using the bucket at a satelite tie in on the last cut. Does that go against your logic?

Treetom · 10-28-2009, 06:07 PM

Good job, murphy4trees. That was one dangerous piece of vegetation.

johnnyblame · 11-03-2009, 10:31 PM

Hi..
Thanks for sharing the video so from that get the idea to protect and caring about the tress also to show others to prevent for trees... Good job..

treemandan · 11-04-2009, 10:18 PM

He said " I had to talk her into doing that much"

Well...

I would think you would have to talk me into trying to get it down then. I mean to hell with it. If you gotta talk these people into a job where you have to risk like that forget it. Let them keep the tree if they want it so bad.

John464 · 11-05-2009, 05:27 PM

unsafe. you should of had a crane there or a taller bucket truck. your lack of the right equipment could of killed you.

notch, then back cut with tag line set on extremely dead tree then descend below that = dumber than dumb

btw your retired asplundh hunk of #### is missing some covers

Ekka · 11-06-2009, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS TreeMonkey

I'm sure Ekka is going to rip you a new one, though, because of something like not having a chinstrap on your helmet or for wearing blue jeans instead of chainsaw pants - maybe even for wearing an orange shirt instead of a hi-vis yellow!

Or maybe for taking a pissy 200T instead of a bigger saw to bomb them leaders out. Lets face it, you yanks push the boundaries with 16" bars on 200T's for ya balsa wood trees but jeez ... when there's only 2 cuts to make.

10-02-2009, 02:08 AM	#1
murphy4trees Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: suburban Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 1,768	rottin maple tops http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydpwMDiEEL4 couple little tidbits here... mighty dead tree... or shoudl we call it symplastless? lots of bacteria and fungus living in there... not to mention poison ivy __________________ God Bless All, Daniel copyright Daniel Murphy all rights reserved

10-02-2009, 05:08 AM	#2
MS TreeMonkey Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Columbus, MS Posts: 51	Good vid - not allergic to the poison ivy?!?! I'm sure Ekka is going to rip you a new one, though, because of something like not having a chinstrap on your helmet or for wearing blue jeans instead of chainsaw pants - maybe even for wearing an orange shirt instead of a hi-vis yellow! I've climbed a few trees like that (don't have a bucket) but usually have a line in another tree nearby depending on location! __________________ Saws - 575xp, 346xp, 455 rancher, ms200t 1993 Brush Bandit 250 2005 Carlton 2700 Stump Grinder ONE SET OF LEGS LIKE TREE TRUNKS

10-02-2009, 05:40 AM	#3
ozzy42 Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: swflorida Posts: 1,929	I think the big pucker factor had to be descending the tree with a face and back cut made in that nasty bugger. Had to be a nervous few seconds. Looks like you handled it pretty well. A nasty dead one for sure. One of the worst hack jobs I ever witnessed was a couple of lawn jockies were topping a 75 ft norfolk island pine next to a mobile home. The "climber" went up their 28 ft ladder[no gear at all] ,placed a rope about 15 ft above that ,made a face ,and back cut ,then ran down the ladder ,and out to the street to help the other guy pull on the rope. Next problem was on their 2nd or 3rd yank, the rope came untied. The "climber"then had to go back up the ladder and up on the already cut top to retie the rope. I watched all of this in total disbelief from the canopy of another tree around the corner from them.They managed to pull it over on the next attempt somehow. They underbid me on that job by $100 ,but the HO came close to losing their home. The park manager refered them because they trim the palms there every year with their 25 ft bucket truck[old cable truck]. I guess that made them "QUALIFIED". Didn't mean to hi jack your thread.It just reminded me of that job. Nor am a comparing your work to that of the L...Js, as their tree could have easily and safely been climbed and lowered in pcs. __________________ ______________________________________________________________________________ anne bill cody dianne eden flashy george hortez ian joshua katy leon marie nadine ozzy jr paul quasar rhonda sarah teri ursala vera william xenia ybor zack ArboristSite Big"O" Disclaimer; no workers were harmed in the making of this post

10-03-2009, 02:16 AM	#4
murphy4trees Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: suburban Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 1,768	you know its always tough tom tell exactly what is going on from a video.. Tree to the left looks relatively tall because it is closer to the camera.. No way to use any other tree for a satelite tie in point.. And the last lead was a heavy backleaner... so it was leaning hard away from me as I was descending... __________________ God Bless All, Daniel copyright Daniel Murphy all rights reserved

11-03-2009, 10:31 PM	#7
johnnyblame Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 3	Hi.. Thanks for sharing the video so from that get the idea to protect and caring about the tress also to show others to prevent for trees... Good job.. __________________ r4 card

10-28-2009, 01:20 PM	#5
ForTheAction Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 279	I learned a lot from that vid. I've searched your vids on you tube before. Lot of info. I was wondering about using the bucket at a satelite tie in on the last cut. Does that go against your logic?

10-28-2009, 06:07 PM	#6
Treetom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Muskegon, MI Posts: 428	Good job, murphy4trees. That was one dangerous piece of vegetation.

11-04-2009, 10:18 PM	#8
treemandan Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: chester co pa Posts: 4,415	He said " I had to talk her into doing that much" Well... I would think you would have to talk me into trying to get it down then. I mean to hell with it. If you gotta talk these people into a job where you have to risk like that forget it. Let them keep the tree if they want it so bad.

11-05-2009, 05:27 PM	#9
John464 Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 1,085	unsafe. you should of had a crane there or a taller bucket truck. your lack of the right equipment could of killed you. notch, then back cut with tag line set on extremely dead tree then descend below that = dumber than dumb btw your retired asplundh hunk of #### is missing some covers

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