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At around 2pm today a 180 Stihl chainsaw arrived at the ER Room. It had no heartbeat. Me being the surgeon that I am I tried to revive it but my attempts failed. The saw was pronounce dead by yours truely at 2.00.1. Yes one second was all it took,LOL

Anyway I performed a autopsy on the remains. My partner at my practice could not make it so Dr Hall will indeed fire Dr Hoss in the morning. Even so the autopsy was performed by yours truely with the camera rolling. I did the autopsy on film because it appears some surgeons aren't as qualified as me and need some advanced tutorial in the field.

Removing the flywheel and clutch of the deceased took exactly 1 minute, 39 seconds as you will see on the film. Next I open the heart of the deceased and removed its rod and piston. This of course took place after I removed the heart from the body, this took 57 seconds. I found no damaged to it internals at all.

There seems to be a debate within the medical feild as to how strong this deceased saw of the chainsaw world is, especailly its internals. Therefore I decided to see if these rumors were true. I put the heart of this machine, the complete engine assembled, in a vice. I attempted to break or bend the internals of this engine by putting it under high unusual force with a 80lb torque wrench. To my surprize after almost pulling the vice off the bench the internals did not show any signs of damage. No bent rod, no busted piston. You will see the work bench bending and the vice buckling under pressure. You will also see a engine go spinning out of my hand but the results were well worth the embarrassment of losing my grip. After performing the autopsy and seeing the test results myself I've concluded some surgeons need their license revoked.

One would ask why would I bother to do this. The answer is simple. I said it earlier in another thread that has created this thread, I even copied it.

"this non-sense of putting the blame off somewhere else instead of taking full blunt for thy own mistakes need to cease. Blaming others or manufactures for your own screw ups is cowardly and unjust, simple as that. It needs to cease so people can quit being fooled because some refuse to admit they're own mistakes. We all screw up at times, its no big deal, admititng it separates the black sheep from the flock".

This is one time I'm not letting it go. The first time I saw the BS regarding the bent rod and busted piston I let it go. Since it seems to be a running story over and over its time to expose whether its really true. Might say I'm taking some surgeons to task.

Now to the sad part. I'm on dial up and can't upload the filmed autopsy and test results of how this engine held up under more stress than its intended to ever be under. However tomorrow I will run by work and upload these vids on high speed net. This will give some surgeons time to head to the hills, aren't I a nice guy,LOLOL
 
At around 2pm today a 180 Stihl chainsaw arrived at the ER Room. It had no heartbeat. Me being the surgeon that I am I tried to revive it but my attempts failed. The saw was pronounce dead by yours truely at 2.00.1. Yes one second was all it took,LOL

Anyway I performed a autopsy on the remains. My partner at my practice could not make it so Dr Hall will indeed fire Dr Hoss in the morning. Even so the autopsy was performed by yours truely with the camera rolling. I did the autopsy on film because it appears some surgeons aren't as qualified as me and need some advanced tutorial in the field.

Removing the flywheel and clutch of the deceased took exactly 1 minute, 39 seconds as you will see on the film. Next I open the heart of the deceased and removed its rod and piston. This of course took place after I removed the heart from the body, this took 57 seconds. I found no damaged to it internals at all.

There seems to be a debate within the medical feild as to how strong this deceased saw of the chainsaw world is, especailly its internals. Therefore I decided to see if these rumors were true. I put the heart of this machine, the complete engine assembled, in a vice. I attempted to break or bend the internals of this engine by putting it under high unusual force with a 80lb torque wrench. To my surprize after almost pulling the vice off the bench the internals did not show any signs of damage. No bent rod, no busted piston. You will see the work bench bending and the vice buckling under pressure. You will also see a engine go spinning out of my hand but the results were well worth the embarrassment of losing my grip. After performing the autopsy and seeing the test results myself I've concluded some surgeons need their license revoked.

One would ask why would I bother to do this. The answer is simple. I said it earlier in another thread that has created this thread, I even copied it.

"this non-sense of putting the blame off somewhere else instead of taking full blunt for thy own mistakes need to cease. Blaming others or manufactures for your own screw ups is cowardly and unjust, simple as that. It needs to cease so people can quit being fooled because some refuse to admit they're own mistakes. We all screw up at times, its no big deal, admititng it separates the black sheep from the flock".

This is one time I'm not letting it go. The first time I saw the BS regarding the bent rod and busted piston I let it go. Since it seems to be a running story over and over its time to expose whether its really true. Might say I'm taking some surgeons to task.

Now to the sad part. I'm on dial up and can't upload the filmed autopsy and test results of how this engine held up under more stress than its intended to ever be under. However tomorrow I will run by work and upload these vids on high speed net. This will give some surgeons time to head to the hills, aren't I a nice guy,LOLOL

Out of rep bullets, sorry.
 
aren't I a nice guy,LOLOL


Probably not, but that won't stop me from making a special trip the next time I'm up that way. I'll bring a chastity belt just in case there are any offers to tour "the shed"
 
Oh my Goodness. Differing from the Socialistic norm has dire consequences.


I cant wait to see the vid.......:clap::clap:
 
this could get hairy quick everybody put on your hip boots were gonna get deep in some s*** talkin :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
 
The torch-weilding mob will be along shortly Tom..........good for you for standing up for your product:cheers:











hope yer flamesuit is plenty thick:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:
 
Mr. Hall if this video of you trying to bend a "rod" ends up being you with your willy in a vise I will be very disappointed. :)
 
Mr. Hall if this video of you trying to bend a "rod" ends up being you with your willy in a vise I will be very disappointed. :)

:ices_rofl::ices_rofl::ices_rofl::ices_rofl::ices_rofl::ices_rofl:

Sadly I must admit my "rod" is not as strong as the rod in that saw, psst, our secret ok, thanks..
 
"Run to the hills?" Hardly! That would imply that I have something to hide from. I do not and will not. The sad part is, I'm playing right into your hands by simply replying, likely your only reason for posting it to begin with. You don't like the bad publicity I've given your little homeowner Stihls and the best way you know to fight back is to attack my reputation and character. Pathetic.

The way Stihl designed this rod was no accident. It's cheap and profitable. They put it in their cheapest homeowner saws for whom most of the intended market it works great for. I have simply stated that it's a weaker engine design than I care to own and wish that Stihl wouldn't cheap out so bad on us. Their competition doesn't!

Further more, your tests do nothing to discredit what happened to me. I told you exactly what I did, how it happend, and documented it with pictures. You're not even testing this saw like has been known to bend multiple of these rods. In case you have forgotten several 170-210 rods have been shown on here with the exact same bent rod that I have shown. None of us put our rods in a vise to destroy them. If you want to test what happened to our saws, why didn't you even try to duplicate the conditions?

Tom, you're a disappointment. You may be a great guy 99% of the time and have built your reputation here on AS showing that. But the way that you are going to all ends to defend Stihl in their weakest points has only served to disappoint those that have confidence in you. Anyone that will try to defend the most obvious of weaknesses is not someone I want to do business with.

Let's sum this up with a few Q & As.

Q: Is the MS180 a dependable saw for a majority of its intended market?
A: Yes.

Q: Is the rod design weak?
A: Yes.

Q: Does that make it a worthless piece of junk?
A: No.

Q: Then why do you, Brad, harp on it?
A: There's better out there for the money. If Stihl's to be #1, then I expect that to carry through even to their cheapest homeowner saws.

Q: Why is Tom Hall so desperate to discredit me, Brad, and defend the weakest of Stihl design?
A: You be the judge.

I hope you're happy Tom. You got a response. Of course you would be a lot happier if you could make me go away.
 
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Is anyone else tired of Brad crying all over multiple threads?

Come on Brad, its time to give it up. Good grief.

Reputation? :monkey:
 
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