Echo CS-600P

blsnelling · Feb 18, 2011

I thought a few of you might be interested in seeing how a this Echo might run once ported. It really surprised me. It's a very strong runner and would give any other 60cc saw a good run for it's money. I did not run it stock, but factory spec is only 12,500, so wouldn't expect too much. Echo left a lot on the table as far as porting goes and it really responded well to a little port work. It has a nice sound to it as well. The only thing that disappointed me about the saw is the fasteners used to put it together. Most of the screws are coarse threaded, as you would expect in plastic, but these are going into metal. If they had simply tapped the holes and used machine screws, I would be a lot happier with the saw. All in all though, not a big deal.

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mweba · Feb 18, 2011

You sayin an Echo can be fast? Ha

Nice runner. This is the same conclusion I came to with the cs-450. Ports are very conservative and do leave alot. Did this 600 have the transfer "tunnels" on the piston?

MechanicMatt · Feb 18, 2011

Looks good, Did you take any before and after photo's of the cylinder so we can see just how much they left on the table???

fatboymoe · Feb 18, 2011

Brad,
I guess that Echo would be my saw? WOW! What a difference. My shoulder surgery is next Tuesday so it will be awhile before I can use it. If this isn't motivation enough to get well fast, I don't know what is.

Thank You,
Brian

mweba · Feb 18, 2011

fatboymoe said:
Brad,
I guess that Echo would be my saw? WOW! What a difference. My shoulder surgery is next Tuesday so it will be awhile before I can use it. If this isn't motivation enough to get well fast, I don't know what is.

Thank You,
Brian

No kidding, looks like you will be pleased with that one.

blsnelling · Feb 18, 2011

mweba said:
Did this 600 have the transfer "tunnels" on the piston?

What do you mean by tunnels? The sides of the piston are raised.

MechanicMatt said:
Looks good, Did you take any before and after photo's of the cylinder so we can see just how much they left on the table???

No pics. Pretty much just a typical piston ported 2-stroke.

blsnelling · Feb 18, 2011

fatboymoe said:
Brad,
I guess that Echo would be my saw? WOW! What a difference. My shoulder surgery is next Tuesday so it will be awhile before I can use it. If this isn't motivation enough to get well fast, I don't know what is.

Thank You,
Brian

Here's to hoping you heal up quickly :clap:

mweba · Feb 18, 2011

Channel would have been a better descriptive word. Best pic I have at the moment.

Piston comp band has channels molded into the top, opening the trans up earlier.

blsnelling · Feb 18, 2011

No, it has nothing like that.

pgg · Feb 18, 2011

LOL, the Echo crowd will be jumping with joy to see an Echo that actually revs over double figures.. But the big difference here between a cheap Echo and the real-deal pro-grade brands is that a ported Echo will almost certainly crap out quickly. I'd put money on that over-powered Echo to splutter to death if put to any serious hours. Strictly a cookie-cutter demonstration machine, not a year in year out workhorse that can easily handle all the extra grunt any saw can get from a modified engine. Betcha that echo is a harsh vibrating pig to use in that state, even sounds on the ragged edge of disintegration in the vid. I wouldn't trust a non-stock Echo to last any sort of real-world longevity test out on the forests

Modifiedmark · Feb 18, 2011

pgg said:
LOL, the Echo crowd will be jumping with joy to see an Echo that actually revs over double figures.. But the big difference here between a cheap Echo and the real-deal pro-grade brands is that a ported Echo will almost certainly crap out quickly. I'd put money on that over-powered Echo to splutter to death if put to any serious hours. Strictly a cookie-cutter demonstration machine, not a year in year out workhorse that can easily handle all the extra grunt any saw can get from a modified engine. Betcha that echo is a harsh vibrating pig to use in that state, even sounds on the ragged edge of disintegration in the vid. I wouldn't trust a non-stock Echo to last any sort of real-world longevity test out on the forests

I'll give you this, your certainly consistent. :ices_rofl:

Andyshine77 · Feb 18, 2011

Pgg they're a few of these saws out there that have been ported by other builders and they are running fine. :msp_cool:

mweba · Feb 18, 2011

Modifiedmark said:
I'll give you this, your certainly consistent.

Ya and only took 10 posts! Thats some kind of record.

pgg · Feb 18, 2011

LOL, don't ever give Echo owners an inch coz they'll try and take a mile every time

mweba · Feb 18, 2011

Have owned and modified several Echo's (not saying they were better) over the past couple years. All I can go off of is experience, never purchased one replacement part that was not a regular wear item. Great product and bargain for the value.

If I did not have this 6 cube affliction, there would be a 600 in my line up.

MechanicMatt · Feb 18, 2011

pgg said:
LOL, the Echo crowd will be jumping with joy to see an Echo that actually revs over double figures.. But the big difference here between a cheap Echo and the real-deal pro-grade brands is that a ported Echo will almost certainly crap out quickly. I'd put money on that over-powered Echo to splutter to death if put to any serious hours. Strictly a cookie-cutter demonstration machine, not a year in year out workhorse that can easily handle all the extra grunt any saw can get from a modified engine. Betcha that echo is a harsh vibrating pig to use in that state, even sounds on the ragged edge of disintegration in the vid. I wouldn't trust a non-stock Echo to last any sort of real-world longevity test out on the forests

I know were all entitled to our own opinion but seriously do you have to go out of your way to talk smack out of someone's saw? Can't you just be happy with your own saws and not find it necessary to put down someone else's?? Our are you just so personally sad that the only way to build your self up is by putting somebody else down?? So which is it? I won't tell you how I feel about guys like you because I was taught that if YOU DON"T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY DON"T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. PGG have a nice weekend and I hope your saws run great. -Matt

zogger · Feb 18, 2011

Thanks, nice vid, a few questions

I note your comment on the screws. I'd like to ask your opinion on the general layout of the saw, build quality, fit and finish (given you didn't go into the bottom end most likely), what seems good, what is lacking and can be improved other than the porting work, etc. And the carb....once you got into tuning it, how did you leave it after you were finished, was it still close to stock settings on the H and L screws, or did they need a lot more adjustment(I am guessing richer)? And approx how many tanks run through this saw since it was new, if you know that, and what chain is it running?

Thanks in advance! I have two of these guys, one to run now, and one I am keeping pristine NIB for my emergency backup "one saw plan".

Hddnis · Feb 19, 2011

Nice vid, Brad, good work on that saw.

I know the usual Echo haters can't stand the 600, or any other Echo for that matter. Their trouble is totally brand hate because Echo chainsaws are well built, long lasting, high performing saws.

Mr. HE

bcorradi · Feb 19, 2011

Looks good...suprised Steve aka mountainlake hasn't chimed in

Wildman1024 · Feb 19, 2011

I don't know much about echo's quality nowadays but I do know this is built like a tank and is a runner. I would be happy to place it against other 92cc saw out there cord for cord.

New piston and running fat.
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Leaned out and Cuttin Scott giving her hell. 28"bar 8 pin rim Oregon 72LGX Buried in hard wood.
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