Nice saw Beau. When the previous owner picked that one up - I knew where it was headed! Congrats
Chris
What's YOUR Holy Grail Vintage Chainsaw List?
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Nice saw Beau. When the previous owner picked that one up - I knew where it was headed! Congrats
Chris
Thanks Chris. These are great machines and I feel really fortunate to have one in my collection.
So I worked on a quartet of Grail saws yesterday - the elusive Jonsereds 111. Took me forever to find my first one and then ended up finding a few more in short order.
Anyway, one was a dump find from Canada. Con rod came apart at the small end; not sure what can be saved, but it will be a long term project. In the meantime, it donated the clutch cover, top cover, full wrap, muffler, and rear handle to saws that needed it, so now I have 3 complete ones and one that needs everything.
I posted in the Jonsereds sticky as well and someone mentioned that a Dolmar 166 piston works in a 111/111S. Has anyone else heard of this? Maybe our resident 166 hoarder - @leeha - Uncle Lee, you know anything about this?
Scott
Anyway, one was a dump find from Canada. Con rod came apart at the small end; not sure what can be saved, but it will be a long term project. In the meantime, it donated the clutch cover, top cover, full wrap, muffler, and rear handle to saws that needed it, so now I have 3 complete ones and one that needs everything.
I posted in the Jonsereds sticky as well and someone mentioned that a Dolmar 166 piston works in a 111/111S. Has anyone else heard of this? Maybe our resident 166 hoarder - @leeha - Uncle Lee, you know anything about this?
Scott
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Good looking herd there Scott!
It appears that one of them (bottom/right in the third photo) is a 'key' saw in your collection.
It appears that one of them (bottom/right in the third photo) is a 'key' saw in your collection.
Scott, It is new to me as well as for using a 166 in a 111S. Another member pm'ed me
about a 166 piston stating you can get more power out of the saw using a 166 piston.
I have both so when I get some time I will compare the two.
about a 166 piston stating you can get more power out of the saw using a 166 piston.
I have both so when I get some time I will compare the two.
fwgsaw
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Not everyday you see 4 of those all together.
My apologies in advance Scott. I know you started this thread as a holy grail vintage chainsaw list, but I just got my hands on one of my personal holy grail vintage chainsaw tools.
No apology needed; it's all good.
So, what's the application? Clutch puller? For a ?
Close! Sprocket puller for an 090G. These are very tough to come by.
If I can pick it up and it starts after the 4th or 5th pull and does what it was intended to do it makes my list!
Well, like the title says, it's YOUR list, so if that's what blows your skirt up, that's your call!
Very nice group of Jonsereds Scott- was it ever determined if the one at the lower left is a 110?
Not yet, but today I ran across a photo of a 110 sitting next to an early 111 with the 1 piece cover. Sure do look a lot alike. Trying to get more details on the 110 -- serial number, any noticeable differences, etc.
Scott
Here are some piston dimensions. 166 versus 111S
Diameter 166 55.88 111S 55.89
Pin Diameter both 14mm
total hight 166 49.50 111S 50.08
top of pin bore
to crown 166 17.50 111S 16.62 not counting crown
The 166 is a flat top, 111S is a domed piston
Put the pin through both pistons and the 166 is close to the top off
the 111S piston but the edge of the 166 is taller than the 111S so
it would make more compression providing there is room in the squish
band on the cylinder or have it machined.
I would say the 166 piston in a 111S would make more power.
One of mine is going to come apart.
Diameter 166 55.88 111S 55.89
Pin Diameter both 14mm
total hight 166 49.50 111S 50.08
top of pin bore
to crown 166 17.50 111S 16.62 not counting crown
The 166 is a flat top, 111S is a domed piston
Put the pin through both pistons and the 166 is close to the top off
the 111S piston but the edge of the 166 is taller than the 111S so
it would make more compression providing there is room in the squish
band on the cylinder or have it machined.
I would say the 166 piston in a 111S would make more power.
One of mine is going to come apart.
Lee - Thanks for taking the time to take all the measurements. This definitely sounds interesting!
Scott
Scott
I was told 166 was stronger than the 111S piston and you could go farther with your porting with the 166 piston.
Maybe I got it wrong and the port job would be stronger.
Think a Dolmar CT115 piston would work as well, and also has a dome. Of course, CT115 parts are probably harder to find than 111 or 166 parts, so that may not be helpful.
166 on the left. CT on the right (new piston with dome).
166 on the left. CT on the right (new piston with dome).
I gave one of those CT pistons away. Aftermarket JUNK IMO. Find OEM or a nice piston like Lee had made up.
Saving your info where it wont get lost on 166 111 Lee.
Saving your info where it wont get lost on 166 111 Lee.
