GASoline71
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Thanks Gary, I must be slippin'
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Best damn timber faller I ever worked with and the man who taught me to buck as well
Bucking a Fir, not that tall, two 40's and a short (26) plus top, but not too bad. Chunk of a long butt cut off behind me.
I think that the most important thing to learn in bucking as far as saw movement is learning to "wheel". It is huge. Don't just make a living on match cuts. They end up holding you back in ability. "Wheeling" is moving the saw in and over, down, or up in a motion that does not stop. Mang here knows what I am talking about. Wheeling a big ole' log off in reverse (one that is hanging out and will pinch on bottom and shatter on top) coming up from the bottom, get over to the far side fast as you can, then keep it coming. Once the kerf is closed below you, it's a done deal most times. Once you are almost to the top (say an inch or two depending on species or grain quality) pull out and snip the strap on top and watch a few bushels drop straight down, not a sliver pulled. Cool move that has a purpouse. Trips people out when they first see it, they figure you're gonna get pinched out right away, and you can lol.
Best damn timber faller I ever worked with and the man who taught me to buck as well
Bucking a Fir, not that tall, two 40's and a short (26) plus top, but not too bad. Chunk of a long butt cut off behind me.
I think that the most important thing to learn in bucking as far as saw movement is learning to "wheel". It is huge. Don't just make a living on match cuts. They end up holding you back in ability. "Wheeling" is moving the saw in and over, down, or up in a motion that does not stop. Mang here knows what I am talking about. Wheeling a big ole' log off in reverse (one that is hanging out and will pinch on bottom and shatter on top) coming up from the bottom, get over to the far side fast as you can, then keep it coming. Once the kerf is closed below you, it's a done deal most times. Once you are almost to the top (say an inch or two depending on species or grain quality) pull out and snip the strap on top and watch a few bushels drop straight down, not a sliver pulled. Cool move that has a purpouse. Trips people out when they first see it, they figure you're gonna get pinched out right away, and you can lol.
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GASoline71
Mr. Nice Guy
GASoline71
Mr. Nice Guy
You bet pard'... We used to get chastised by the old sawbuck on the crew if the buckin' crew used wedges...
"Wedges are for fallers and queers... you ain't no faller."
Gary
Burvol
Bullbuck
Learn to use all that weight to your advantage. Moving your cut around or over, can shift weight to your play.
Also: Don't buck the damn log from the easy open side when dealing with wound up or loaded timber. It can break your legs. Don't ask me how I know. I did not bust my leg, but I have been spanked so hard I was thrown 20 feet foreward, propeled by my shins. I laid at home for a few days and drank beers.
What Burv says lol: The side that opens easy in a bind will break your legs.
Now then: Many agree/disagree on putting a boot up on the log during the buck. I love it. If in doubt, it aids in telling me what the pressure is doing, not just my bar reading alone. If you happen to be in bind, it will throw you back and away from danger. Want a sprained knee or busted leg?
Also: Don't buck the damn log from the easy open side when dealing with wound up or loaded timber. It can break your legs. Don't ask me how I know. I did not bust my leg, but I have been spanked so hard I was thrown 20 feet foreward, propeled by my shins. I laid at home for a few days and drank beers.
What Burv says lol: The side that opens easy in a bind will break your legs.
Now then: Many agree/disagree on putting a boot up on the log during the buck. I love it. If in doubt, it aids in telling me what the pressure is doing, not just my bar reading alone. If you happen to be in bind, it will throw you back and away from danger. Want a sprained knee or busted leg?
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Slamm
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I dislike buckin up logs.
I don't mind falling, it seems like work is getting started and getting done, after a little while you can look around and see a vast expanse of destruction and grin, LOL.
I don't mind skidding, pretty obvious work is getting done when the landing is filling up nicely.
I hate, buckin up logs. You start with a landing full of logs and after an hour or two or three, you still have a landing full of logs, but they are just cut into pieces. Not so dramatic to me, nothing fell very far or hard, and nothing was moved .... very far ..... boring.
For me falling is fun, skidding is profitable and bucking is work .... I don't really like work, LOL.
I should also note I'm not the greatest "bucker" and have nothing against using wedges, LOL, as they are faster than pinching.
Thats my take, I'll sit back and learn,
Sam
I don't mind falling, it seems like work is getting started and getting done, after a little while you can look around and see a vast expanse of destruction and grin, LOL.
I don't mind skidding, pretty obvious work is getting done when the landing is filling up nicely.
I hate, buckin up logs. You start with a landing full of logs and after an hour or two or three, you still have a landing full of logs, but they are just cut into pieces. Not so dramatic to me, nothing fell very far or hard, and nothing was moved .... very far ..... boring.
For me falling is fun, skidding is profitable and bucking is work .... I don't really like work, LOL.
I should also note I'm not the greatest "bucker" and have nothing against using wedges, LOL, as they are faster than pinching.
Thats my take, I'll sit back and learn,
Sam
Burvol
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Bucking out west in tall wood is just different Slamm. I can see your point though, in some of that heavy crowned wood, I can see it would be a PITA
donthraen
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how can you keep a log from exploding wen bucking it
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I'm in, ya got my interest.
GASoline71
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Even though buckin' big stuff out here can be a chore... I definately will take it over buckin' big crowned trees anyday. The terrain out here is the killer. It's what adds to the complexity of buckin' big wood. You gotta be able to read the land, and how the wood is layin' on it.
I too will put a boot up on a log to feel for movement. I wish I had a 3rd eye sometimes... One to watch the kerf, one to watch for compression or contraction and roll, and another to watch the end of the log.
Sometimes (like Burvy said) feeling through the bar ain't enough. All of your senses come in to play on steep ground and big wood. I too misread a log when I was young... got sent for a ride about 15 feet and landed sqare on my back into a Doug Fir stump. I have had the wind knocked out of me before... but not like that. I got sent home early that day... was out for a week with bruised ribs and a messed up shoulder.
Sawbuck had a dunce cap for me at work the next week...
Don't use dynamite...
Gary
In decent size wood instead under bucking the log part way thru from the bottom then bucking down from the dop 1/3 t1/2 diameter start from underneath and race the pinch you reach a point where you have pretty much passed the pinch point. Some reamin helps too. Correct me if im wrong but thats what im interpeting and have done on many occasions.
forestryworks
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Limbin' and buckin' is where the real work is. My hats are off to the guys doin' a fall, limb, and buck on a daily basis.
That's kind of what I gathered from the description. Reach under the bottom towards the other side as far as you can and then come up never slowing down or stopping and the bottom will pinch all it can and your bar is above the pinched area.
BuddhaKat
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So you're saying you paid your dues, eh? :greenchainsaw:Even though buckin' big stuff out here can be a chore... I definately will take it over buckin' big crowned trees anyday. The terrain out here is the killer. It's what adds to the complexity of buckin' big wood. You gotta be able to read the land, and how the wood is layin' on it.
I too will put a boot up on a log to feel for movement. I wish I had a 3rd eye sometimes... One to watch the kerf, one to watch for compression or contraction and roll, and another to watch the end of the log.
Sometimes (like Burvy said) feeling through the bar ain't enough. All of your senses come in to play on steep ground and big wood. I too misread a log when I was young... got sent for a ride about 15 feet and landed sqare on my back into a Doug Fir stump. I have had the wind knocked out of me before... but not like that. I got sent home early that day... was out for a week with bruised ribs and a messed up shoulder.
Sawbuck had a dunce cap for me at work the next week...
Don't use dynamite...
Gary
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