011 compression.

[fishhuntcutwood]

What compression would be considered good in a Stihl 011?

Thanks.
Take care all,
Jeff

 

[stihltech]

compression

Anything other than the " pick it up by the starter handle and the rope stays in or comes out very slowly" is a waste of time and effort.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

Good enough for me. Thanks.

Take care all,
Jeff

 

[GeorgeWLogger]

Piston

What compression would be considered good in a Stihl 011?

Thanks.
Take care all,
Jeff

Hey Jeff,

What kinda piston are you runnin in that badboy? You runnin a stock one, Kieth Black? You running a stock rod and crank, or you got stroker kit in that puppy?

Those Stihl 011's really come alive when you get the compression numbers up around 200-210.

 

[sedanman]

Dude, The man posts a serious question and you mock him? He has only 14 posts to this point, are you trying to scare away the newcomers? Ok I know this sounds a bit contrary coming from me and all but really, we need to welcome people here not beat them up forasking a simple question.

 

[GeorgeWLogger]

How about a little light hearted joking......Eh?

 

[Stumper]

Joking is cool (and fun) but it could be confusing to a newbie-particularly when you fail to use an emoticon to help show what your intention is. :angel:

 

[sbvfd592]

round 180 is good for running

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

How about a little light hearted joking......Eh?

The joking is alright! Thanks for standing up for me though, sedanman. And I don't even own the saw yet, I'm just looking around, as I've got a maple that needs to come down, and it's proximity to some powerlines dictate that I top it before I just bring the whole thing down, and this is a perfect excuse to get another saw! I don't want to climb the tree with my 056 Super, 044 Mag, or my MS310 I'm getting rid of to get a 361 next month.

As usual, take care all,
Jeff
(see how easy those emoticons are to use....)

 

[Lawn Masters]

Good idea, dont ruin a brand new saw, a good 440, or an excelling old 056super.
They work better on the ground anyways. in the tree, an 020/200, or the 011 would be a much more natural feeling machine since they're smaller, lighter, and easier to run in the tree.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

I'd like to get a nice 020/200, but me in a tree with a saw is not at all a common thing, so if I can get an older 011 for less than $100 on ebay or something like that, then that'd be wiser purchase. Let me get the saw, and I'll be on here looking for tips on how mod the muffler, and get it up around 2.5hp!

Take care all, and I'll try not to bother anyone with a thread about such a puny saw in the future. I'll stick to bothering y'all with questions about the 056.

Jeff

 

[sedanman]

Jeff, Don't worry about bothering anybody with 'puny' saws. The saw I carry in my trunk is an 009. The muffler on an 009/010/011/012 is aluminum and convoluted, not too receptive to mods. The exhaust port on that engine is actually on the starter side!

 

[sedanman]

And BTW, I know 2 tree guys who climb with 009's! 1/2 the price of an 020, much more reliable than an 019, and it's almost a top handle saw.

 

[njforestfire]

Owned a few 009's in the past....great saw but went to an older 020. Made some $ on the 009's but the 020 was a freebie from doing a job...lucky me. Both are good saws though.

 

[Lakeside53]

What compression would be considered good in a Stihl 011?

Thanks.
Take care all,
Jeff

Anything over 140 will work fine. 160+ is great. Less than 140 means it's heading down... There are a few versions of pistons (size and rings) and cylinders - just look for those that say 2.5 on the side of the case.

Should you buy a clunker (never happend to me - sure...) and feel the need to replace the piston/cylinder, be prepared for a nasty suprise - take off the cylinder, the rod moves to the side and all the roller bearings from the crank/rod fall into the bottom of the case! Don't panic - read the manual. It looks very crude, but works incredibly well. The main bearing are actually the same type as the 020 or 200T - roller, not deep groove. The side to side slop in the crank takes some getting used to after a newer style saw, but they do work well.

I'v owned a few 009/011 and fixed many. If you want "robust", the Orange colored body is magnesium casing and can take all types of abuse. The "newer" 009s are really cheap flimsy plastic that gets beat after moderate use.

Oh yes, get the "electronic" version.

 

[Dale]

Careful

Fishhuntcutwood,
Hey that hanle of yours "Fishhuntcutwood", could fit me.

I posed a simple question to a seller on ebay. "What is the compression on the 028 you are selling".......... NO REPLY. To me, if you are selling a saw as a good running saw, that is a more than fair question. If you are selling the saw as a "parts" saw, then the question need not be asked right ?

Be careful on ebay. Don't end up with a $200 parts saw

 

[Lakeside53]

Even when you get an answer, be careful - I got an 036 with GREAT compression and no visible scoring, BUT the intake side of the cylinder bellow the piston was shot because of running with either no air filter or bad air filter...

In my earlier days on ebay, I asked "how's the compression, does it turn over and feel tight/snappy?"... The guy replied "don't know as I can''t measure it, but it turns over and feels nice and tight tight". Wrong question - it sure was tight....

Ask for photos of the BOTTOM of the saw and don't buy from sellers with incomplete or evasive answers.

I also look at the seller feedback and recent sales/purchases. If the guy is in the business of buying, repairing and selling saws, and states "parts saw, won't start, don't know what's wrong".. he's probably lying... leave it for someone else. I've also had BAD experiences buying Ebay saws from Tree Services and landscapers...

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

I asked the question originally because a guy had an 011 with 110lbs of compression, and an earlier thread on here stated that 110 lbs was suspect. I've also seen a couple for sale in the paper where they mention compression numbers. I didn't buy the saw anyway, but it got me thinking to ask the question. I'd prefer to buy a saw in person, and handle it a bit before I buy it anyway, but alot of those 011's are going for like $50 on ebay. That said, the more I've looked around for a "small" saw, the more I like the idea of getting an 026, which is only about a pound heavier, tons more pwr, and though the frame is much bigger, it'd still be managable in a tree for occasional use. And the saw is a solid performer on the ground as well, so the 026 wouldn't be such a specialized saw, underpowered saw. Like I said earlier, I'm just looking for an excuse to buy anouther saw to play with!

Thanks for the advice guys-you've all been great. And stihltech-when handling a used saw, the first thing I do now is the method of compression check you mentioned. It's revealed a couple of good looking, however poor compression saws. Thanks.

Take care all,
Jeff