020 pro or 009?

[McC]

I'm looking for a used light saw. A local dealer has an 009 and an 020 professional with the extended rear handle. Both are in great shape and run great. $100 for each. Which should I buy?
Scott

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

020 Professional (020 AVP) hands down. Better saw in every way. 009 isn't a bad saw, but if they're the same price, same condition, the 020 is the better saw.

Jeff

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Used, that 020 with rear handle is a $350 saw, the 009 is a $20 saw. hmmm...let me think...uhhh... I dunno.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

Used, that 020 with rear handle is a $350 saw, the 009 is a $20 saw. hmmm...let me think...uhhh... I dunno.

A bit of an exaggeration isn't it Mike? But we get your point though.

Jeff

 

[McC]

OK I get the point. The 020 looks and feels like a better saw, but I really didn't know anything about these models. Never paid too much attention to the small saws, but with my bad back(disk), I'd like to set the big saws down while cutting small firewood.
Thanks for the quick replies,
Scott

 

[NWCS]

im just in the final stage of rebuilding a customers 009. i will share a few views i have on these saws.

first:
the connecting rod bearings are of the loose type, taking the cyl off you slide the connecting rod to the side and let the bearings drop.. very consumer design.

second:
connecting rod is a bit of a joke compared to about any pro saw of any brand.

third:
like my 019T, unguarded transfer port design tends to wear slices into the piston, cutting potential life shorter. wear is very uneven.

fourth:
seemingly VERY undercarbureted and restricted.. making stock performance minimal..

the final conclusion: get the 020 and cut like a madman and drool all over the place! cause life will be good.

 

[Diesel JD]

The 020 is a pro climbing saw...the 009 is the saw that the local tree companies buy to keep costs down in case it gets dropped out of a tree, or that ou buy because like me your not a pro and you only need a tree saw occaisonally. Good for pruning and homeowner type stuff, but might not last in the work environment as well as the 020. Newer 020s are very light, don't know about the oldies.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

The 020 has better anti-vibe as well. And the 009 has well, none at all.

Jeff

 

[Diesel JD]

This is true...and I guess it would be worth worrying about if you were going to use it professionally. CTS is no fun...

 

[Lawn Masters]

the 020, no doubt about it.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

I got to thinking about it even more, and the 020's front and rear handles are further apart than on the 009, making it a more stable, comfortable saw as well.

Jeff

 

[SawTroll]

Three decisive points; antiwibe, stability (handle spaceing) and build quality - no doubt at all!

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

SawTroll, you forgot a big one, Power!

 

[stihltech]

repairs

The 020 ONLY if the person will guarantee that it is in good shape.

If you can't understand that statement, you never had to repair a running problem that was caused by a bad carburetor or seal on one. Those that have will understand.
Having repaired many of both, I would not pass by on the 009. But that is just my opinion.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

The fact that they are priced the same, makes me wonder about their condition.
The rear handled 020 isn't a very old saw. The first one i ever saw was just a few years ago, maybe 3 or 4??

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Come to think of it, that was a European saw. This year is the first year I've seen them for sale in the US.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

Are we talking about the same saw here Mike? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but are you talking about the new MS200 rear handle? I think he's talking about the 020 AVP, which came out a long time ago. According to Mike Acre's site, the 020 series was introduced in the 70's. You can get them (020 AVP) on ebay for less than $175 for a pristine good one. The MS 200 and the 020 AVP as similar as the 036 and the 361.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, and maybe I'm mistaken. If so, sorry. :angel:

Jeff

 

[McC]

I't the 020 from the '70's. I'm going to run the 020 before I buy it to make sure it runs strong. He said I can take it home to test it. It looks like the 020 AVS on Acre's site. It says professional on starter side.
Scott

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

OK, my bad. I thought we were talking about a modern saw. I was pretty young in the 70's, all I cared about was chicks.

 

[Fireaxman]

Don't put the 009 down without a thought. I've been running one for years for small fire wood (oak limbs) and I think it's a good, strong piece of equipment, never failed me. I'm told by my dealer they are still the favorite saw of local landscapers.