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[treehugger01]

WIth enuff ropes and if trees are nearby there should be no ground impacting at all. Here is a illustration of a leaner that will go the notchbreak apart with comealong action and never hit the ground. If the tree requires more pieces or is taller just add a snap cut and a rope.

 

[treehugger01]

heres the pic of what not to do

 

[treehugger01]

Of course all ropes are tight and tied leaving the worker to use comelong after minimal back cut of the stump cuut.

In th epic the tree leans a whole lot over the house. I've notched it to the right. When i begin the back cut the tree falls toward the house until the rope slack is taken up then the tree follows the notch every time. \

Conversely if same tree leans to the left and sits on my saw.I use the comealong. Tree stands (extract saw) use comelong to fall tree onto rope.

Ive noticed with leaners and ropeing them out that the leaner will even twist on the stump to follow the notch as long as the slack is out of the rope.

It's take me years to trust this technique

The snap cut is yet untried but a fellow does it everyday

 

[NickfromWI]

Just to make sure I got this right....You climb up, tie off the top, then do two overlapping cuts, but leave the top in. Go down a few feet, tie on another rope that will go down to the GRCS. Come out of the tree and fell the tree. The top will go one way and the trunk another.

Hmmmmm. What if the snap doesn't break clean?

I like the idea, though!

love
nick

 

[NeTree]

I can't remember the thread, but this sounds familiar... from maybe 4 or 5 months ago. Ring a bell anyone?

 

[treeman82]

I remember the thread... don't remember the title, but the subject was having a tree kind of implode on itself. I think that was more than 4 - 5 months ago though. Probably more like a year.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Seems like an unusual load/strain would be placed on the bullropes and the rigging trees, unless it was a smaller tree. And if it is a smaller tree, why not take it down in a more conventional manner?


Maybe I'm missing something?

 

[NeTree]

Dang, Tree-82... maybe I'm gettin'... oh darn... whuzzit called again? I can't seem to remember it....

Wiseheimers?





MB- It would seem to me that by the time you spent all that time riging it, ya could have had it done already. Whaddaya think?

 

[Lumberjack]

The tread wans't that long ago. The guy in that thead said that the guy he worked with would set a rope in the top, notch the middle, and notch the bottom 180 degrees from the middle one. Then they said that they used a come-a-long to pull at the middle, and make the tree fold up on itself.

The bottom piece of the trunk would fall dangerously close to the ground, unless the tree was mighty close the right tree.

Why wouldnt the climber just cut the top off and let it hang on the left tree, and then do the same with the bottom, leaving a tall stump, that you could tie the trunk off to, to keep it from breaking loose.


Carl

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Well the "Do not Do" (at least top tied off against fall portion) reminds me of a Take down at college, tied from behind thread from McQuinn watching and wondering.



If your cutting that thing and throwing the top into that configuration, it reminds me of some stuff only from legendary Scotty and Graeme. Some of Graeme's Movies

Otherwise i'm not sure what ya might be talking about, but ya got my interest!

 

[Stumper]

The bottom piece of the trunk would fall dangerously close to the ground

You are scaring me Carl!

 

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by netree




MB- It would seem to me that by the time you spent all that time riging it, ya could have had it done already. Whaddaya think?

I dunno, maybe he has a BS and wants to use it?


Seriously, all of that may be good and fine. There are all sorts of ideas one could come up with dealing with various rigging situations. The best ones are the safest, QUICKEST ways that are as simple as possible.

Often on a intense job I have a tendency to 'over-analyze' the task at hand. When I feel myself doing that, I step back, reduce everything to the basic common denominator, and just GET MY ARSE UP THE TREE.



Ya can't do NOTHING 'til you get to the top.

Eh?

 

[treehugger01]

The best ones are the safest, QUICKEST ways that are as simple as possible.

Often on a intense job I have a tendency to 'over-analyze' the task at hand. When I feel myself doing that, I step back, reduce everything to the basic common denominator,

Master Blaster

Great post!
I agree also.

When hanging whole trees and notching opposite of the lean I find the tree will twist severly on the stump. I mean worse than Ive seen storm damage do. However if I leave at lease inch and 1/2 to 2 inches of holding The whole tree will twist like moves of a cobra but still hold on the stump. Ive tried to twist trees off the stump when hanging them and can't. I havent really tried over a house yet. Its very nice when the top is suspending 2 feet over the chipper waiting to be cut..

 

[SilverBlue]

It all sounds interesting T H but I would like to see some live footage of it being done.
Kenny thanks for that link, some great vids there

 

[ORclimber]

Originally posted by netree
I can't remember the thread, but this sounds familiar... from maybe 4 or 5 months ago. Ring a bell anyone?

Here it is

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7450

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Musta missed dat post during silence of the crayons here, thanx!

That stuff is outta my league, and i'd like to swear that there was a series of shots or footage that went around of this Graeme dude doing something similar in the freakin' tree, having it fold up like that as it sank past him!! (when he wasn't screwin'around binding tops off with chain so as not to splinter when he detonated them before felling huge trees!).