2-stoke oilss..any reason not to use synthetics

[weimedog]

2-stroke oils..any reason not to use synthetics

My family rides motorcycles. The general fuel mix I use is a 93 octane Sunoco with Mobil One Synthetic Two Stoke oil. Mobil one claims to meet the following standards:

API TC
JASO FC
ISO-L-EGO

I mix at 32:1 as a compromise between the 125's and open class bikes. (125's need more & big bores need less oil)

(I also understand the mixture's impact on fuel/air ratio's)

Any reason NOT to use this in a chain saw?

How about Bel Ray HR-1 which is the other brand I use.

 

[sedanman]

Quite a few fans of synthetics on here. I myself now use Mobil MX2T, same stuff you use in your bikes.

 

[glens]

Well I've been doing the same thing only at 40:1 (same oil, but Amoco fuel [availability via separate hoses is main reason]) so <i>I'd</i> say it's okay.&nbsp; You'll probably get even more people agreeing with the 32:1 figure.&nbsp; The 93 octane itself is probably a bit of overkill, but for me sometimes some mix will sit around a couple of weeks and the peace of mind is worth the extra 50&cent; or whatever.

Glen

 

[Lawn Masters]

I've never heard of Bel Ray, but I dont think using a full synthetic oil mix in your chainsaw would hurt it at all, in fact it may help to prolong the life of the saw slightly, I dont know for sure but I've used MX2T synthetic oil mixed at 32:1 in my Husky 323L trimmer, no complaints from me, I've seen some smoke but I think thats just a side effect of running 32:1 ratio mix in an engine thats made to be run with 50:1 mix.
I've seen nothing to say the 2 stroke full synthetic oils will damage a chainsaw, so I think its safe to use it.

 

[sedanman]

Excuse me, I'm gonna be sick.....................BARF! Oldsaw Upchuck.

 

[sedanman]

OK, I'll give him that, he at least claims to actually have used synthetic oil.

 

[weimedog]

Thanks for the feed back...I've used Bel-Ray until Mobil one came out. Bel Ray was one of the first and best premium ester based synthetics very popular with the motorcycle racing crowd. Very good stuff...maybe the best. (Mobil one I believe is a Parafin based synthetic)

 

[bwalker]

(Mobil one I believe is a Parafin based synthetic)

Mx2t uses a carboxyl ester base. It is LIGHT years ahead of any Bel Ray product.
What many people fail to realise is that Mobil produces base oils(estyers, Pao's, PGO's,etc) for the smaller blenders like Amsoil, redline, etc. Off course Mobil with holds the latest technology from their competition. Mxt2 is a prime example of this.

 

[glens]

I'd whipped this up for another forum the other day.&nbsp; Based on the current price of Mobil 1 MX2T at AutoZone, I came up with this table:

<font face="fixed">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;16 oz. / $3.49
Ratio &nbsp; &nbsp;48:1 &nbsp; &nbsp; 40:1 &nbsp; &nbsp; 32:1
Makes &nbsp; 6 gal &nbsp; &nbsp;5 gal &nbsp; &nbsp;4 gal
Cost &nbsp; 58¢/gal &nbsp;70¢/gal &nbsp;87¢/gal</font>

Glen

 

[Sethro]

I am user of Mobil MX2T in all off my work saws and in a 2001 CR250R(@32:1). I belive it the best there is. Anybody that runs a mix of 50:1 is putting useless money their dealers pocket. They now it's wrong but. Seth

 

[rbtree]

I'm running MX2T now for several months, thanks to Ben and other's strong praise.

Ben,

How's life in the north country? Let me know about when you'll be back home.

 

[Sylvatica]

Ben, I have been running only Motul 800 2T Offroad. No probs, good power, good protection confirmed by piston & cyl inspections and parts longevity.

Should I switch to MX2T for possibly even better performance?

 

[rahtreelimbs]

I believe that using synthetic is the only way to go. When you invest $800 to $1000 in a modified saw good oil at 32:1 is cheap insurance. The only thing that seems to bother some is that MXT2 doesn't have any dye in the oil. I was reading somewhere here that a dye was available, what was the outcome of that?

 

[tony marks]

ill throw mobil my vote also .. still wish they dyed it but it may be the compound could be affected by anything other than the exact formula.. got to hire somebody while im dn .. his rule is read the container and use mix when its needed .. failure results in the worst i can giveim
..which probably wont be much for a good while.hopefully i can afford someone that can read..

 

[bwalker]

How's life in the north country? Let me know about when you'll be back home

Lifes is good other than the plethora of mechanical failures we are expierancing, the spring storm that brought a foot of wet snow and the resulting 20+ old growth trees that where done in by it.
As for when I get home. I am am home by September 7 this year, but I plan on taking a tour of MT, WY and SD around that time. Realisticly I will be home by 9/20.

Should I switch to MX2T for possibly even better performance

Motul 800 is a greta oil for really high stress applications like shifter carts. In a saw I think you would see better results with Mx2t unless you are milling. As a bonus mx2t is much cheaper than 800(at least it was last time I bought 800).

 

[jokers]

Originally posted by tony marks
..... still wish they dyed it but it may be the compound could be affected by anything other than the exact formula....

I was told by one of the engineers for Mobil that there are several dyes suitable for use in MX2T, the only problem is being able to buy it in quantities of less than 55 gallons. He also pointed me toward several potential suppliers of the dye, if that serves as any endorsement of his belief that dye would be OK. Somewhere I`ve got the number for Sandy Bray Labs which may be the only place to buy it in small quantities, I never had any luck in speaking to the right person in the few times that I called there.

I asked him why a premium mix oil such as this had no dye in it and he replied that noone had ever had an issue with the color before. Yeah, right!

Russ

 

[046]

So which is better 40: to 1 or 32: to 1 for MX2T?