5 yard dump advice

[lon]

I have been looking for a 5 yard dump to use around the place. It will be used to make yard dump runs, haul wood, dirt, gravel and bark. I want a nice clean, dependable truck. Most of the ones I have looked at have diesels with automatics. Beings I am in Oregon, most of the ones I have looked at are former California city road trucks. Most are Fords, Internationals and a few Freightliners. Looked at one such California truck this morning that was a 2000 International with an Allison automatic. Has 55,000 miles on it for $16,000. Lot was closed so I could only look at it. Any advice any of you could give me for this mission would be very much appreciated. On a side note, this is one of the best sites I have found. Thank you. Lon

 

[046]

do a national search for craigslist. you will get loads of hits.
enter this into google search bar.

example: dump truck site:craigslist.org

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dump+truck+site:craigslist.org+&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

 

[lon]

046, thank you.

 

[grandpatractor]

I would avoid any with the old cat 3208 motors. I wouldn't be afriad of the allison automatic. We run them in alot of our trucks and they hold up really well. Just give them regular service is all. The fords or sterling will hold up real well too. I would also avoid the DT530 in Internationals. Ive seen way to many injector problems in them.

 

[lon]

Thank you. Any experience with the Cummins 8.3 with seven speed? Found one of them also. Thanks again.

 

[grandpatractor]

Thank you. Any experience with the Cummins 8.3 with seven speed? Found one of them also. Thanks again.

The 8.3 have a habit of the air compressor getting loose and then they crack the timing cover. Just make sure it is tight and no oil leaking around behind the compressor and you'll be ok. Make sure you take it for a test drive, the spicer 7 speeds get worn out and start jumping out of gear. I'd prefer a 5speed tranny and a 2 speed rear end.

 

[TDunk]

I'd steer towards the International of Ford. I'm not a big fan of the "frieghtshakers" There's a couple FL70's that i work on that just seem to have goofy problems that none of the other ones do.

 

[lon]

Thanks for all the advice.

 

[MOE]

Thank you. Any experience with the Cummins 8.3 with seven speed? Found one of them also. Thanks again.

I have an 8.3 in a 94 L8000 with a six speed. It's a nice combo. I can 7.5-8.5 mpg towing a 24' tag trailer with 18,000 lbs on it. I would also consider a contractors dump box with fold down sides. They cost a bit more and are usually longer but it is very handy for loading wood or setting pallets inside with a forklift.

 

[lon]

Thank you for the responses. I have located a 2000 International 4900 with a flatbed that could be replaced with a dump. It has 175,000 miles but appears to have been taken care of. Has a 6 speed Fuller. Air brakes. Engine is a DT-466 High Torque. Dealership is asking $18,000. Found another 2000 International 4700 with a dump on it that is a former United Rental truck. It has 27,000 miles and that dealer is asking $28,000. It has hydraulic brakes. More money then I had planned to spend on a dump truck. Pick-up converted dumps are far cheaper but will not haul the weight. Any further advice would be appreciated. Lon

 

[grandpatractor]

Thank you for the responses. I have located a 2000 International 4900 with a flatbed that could be replaced with a dump. It has 175,000 miles but appears to have been taken care of. Has a 6 speed Fuller. Air brakes. Engine is a DT-466 High Torque. Dealership is asking $18,000. Found another 2000 International 4700 with a dump on it that is a former United Rental truck. It has 27,000 miles and that dealer is asking $28,000. It has hydraulic brakes. More money then I had planned to spend on a dump truck. Pick-up converted dumps are far cheaper but will not haul the weight. Any further advice would be appreciated. Lon

Either one of those would be ok, on Int- I'd avoid the DT530
I sent you a pm.

 

[lon]

Grandpatractor, thank you very much.

 

[LAH]

My last job [25 yrs] we hauling fuel. We had three 3208 Cats using the 5 sp. Spicer and 2 sp. rear. We had zero trouble with these.

We replaced the above trucks with International 4900's. Both used 466 engines. One used the 5/2 speed set up, the other a 7 speed Spicer. Both were running just fine when I retired. Drivers who operate equipment properly are the key.

 

[thejdman04]

The 8.3 and dt466 are good motors. From my experience stay away from the eaton automatics.

 

[Hoosier]

I would (OK, I always say this) look at the Isuzu/GMC NPR. Those trucks are awesome and get good MPG, they offer them in many GVW's.

 

[lon]

Thanks to everyone for all the info. It has been very helpful. I need to keep looking. The ones I have looked at lately you would need to go to church before you used them. Found some nice ones around the $25,000 area but that is more then I can put into one. Again, thanks for all the help. Great site! Lon