9990 GVR dual axel dump trailer?

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9990 GVR dual axle dump trailer?

So I was thinking instead of buying a third truck with chipping capacity (see my post on the INT with unknown mileage) I was thinking of buying a dual axle 9990gvr dump trailer and setting it up as a towable chip box. It could be used to haul up to an 8K Bobcat, and 8K of anything else you can fit on it I guess.
I only pull a chipper to the job sites 99 percent of the time, so I will always have a vehicle to to trailer it with. Usually I take my 1-ton, and my GMC 7500 bucket truck.
Thoughts?
 
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No, nothing like that at all gr8scott. LOL. Is that a 9990GVR? cuz that's exactly what I want to do. How does it work for you? Pros-cons? TIA!
 
No, nothing like that at all gr8scott. LOL. Is that a 9990GVR? cuz that's exactly what I want to do. How does it work for you? Pros-cons? TIA!

It's got 6k axles (not axels lol) so it's probably close to that. The trailer weighs about 2,800 lbs empty. It works pretty good. A dump trailer is a very handy thing to have. One thing I would check before buying another one is the dump angle. Needs to be at or above 40°. Mine is only like 25° and that makes dumping it a pain. Other than that, after the mods I've done to it, it works great for me.
 
It's got 6k axles (not axels lol) so it's probably close to that. The trailer weighs about 2,800 lbs empty. It works pretty good. A dump trailer is a very handy thing to have. One thing I would check before buying another one is the dump angle. Needs to be at or above 40°. Mine is only like 25° and that makes dumping it a pain. Other than that, after the mods I've done to it, it works great for me.

The dump angle issue is something that never occured to me, I just assumed they'd design the thing so it would empty at full extension. What other mods besides the diamond plate box?
 
The dump angle issue is something that never occured to me, I just assumed they'd design the thing so it would empty at full extension.

Me either. Seems to work fine for rock/gravel but the wood chips, I have to hit the go pedal to get them out.

What other mods besides the diamond plate box?

I relocated the battery to under the dump bed. (It's still high enough to get to if I need from underneath.) Added a front crank jack instead of the top crank jack that came with it so I could add the tool box. Wired in a small trickle charger for the battery. Replaced battery with LARGE deep cycle battery. Sanded dump bed inside and out, primed with rust stopper, and then painter all black. Added 3 D-rings on the inside of the bed to tie down equipment. Added a few D-rings on the outside to make it easier to tie down loads. Added hooks on the side of the bed to hang the ramps. Oh, bought the 7' ramps just for that trailer. Had a side hinge added for the rear gate so it will swing out of the way instead of having to remove it every time I needed to unload it. Built the chip box out of 3/4" treated plywood and added pieces of rope to each section to be able to pick them off with the boom extension on my skid steer. Added a rear hitch to be able to double tow the small chipper we use. (6" Vermeer)

About the only thing I have left that I want to do to it is strip down the frame and then prime and paint it, wire the rear hitch, and install some new tail lights and side marker lights.
 
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Yes, having a dump trailer is very nice, I can use it for many different things, like hauling stump mulch, brush, logs, dirt, or anything you can put in it. It also has eight foot ramps that come out the back, so you can load up a tractor, mini skid or a full size skid. Its has two seven thousand pound axels, with brakes. Its been a great addition to my operation.
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Don't short yourself on capacity. A dump trailer is an excellent idea, but get one with two, 7000 lb axles for a total GVW of 14,000lbs. If the trailer weighs in at around 3,000lbs, you can carry 11,000 on it. Remember, when they are in the dump position, a LOT of weight is transfered to the rear axle, even if it is only for a short period of time.
A good rule of thumb on any trailer purchae is to buy all the load carrying capacity you can afford. Later on, you will be glad you did.
Jeff
 
Only problem is needing a cdl over 9,999 lbs. even with a pickup towing.


Yes the weight transfers to the back very well when dumping, have had my truck slide down the driveway a couple times when the rear wheels got lifted off the ground!
 
For years I had a 3 axle dump trailer with a box that was 35 yards (8' x 16' x 6'). I never worried about capacity, but I have overloaded it in respect to the entire combination and the tow vehicle. What you have to consider also is braking capacity. that extra axle never left me for want of brakes when it was loaded heavily, however, the gross combined vehicle weight rating of your pulling truck is to be reckoned with, as surpassing that on a regular basis does put stresses on parts of the vehicle that it wasn't designed to have. My previous one ton ford that towed that trailer and many more saw things like the axles coming loose from the shackles because they were designed for less constant stress. Likewise the springs were not strong enough, and often caused "axle wrap up" on take off from dead stop.
The angle of the trailer was plenty steep, and you couldn't walk up it when fully extended without slipping down. However, it was weight distributed evenly and always had a firm footing. Many smaller trailers and even trucks lose their stable footing when loads are heavy, unevenly distributed, and then fully extended. I've seen several dump trucks laid over at the dump while emptying torn off roofing loads. There's a bit of righting moment if you will, and a little soft ground can add to the mix. The higher you go, the more risky it becomes. I'll also say my rear axle was bent a bit from that. One think I learned was that any obstruction was a big risk. I painted my bed all the time to make it smoother, and also had poly ethylene boards at any choke points at the end so there was nothing to catch on.
Someone else mentioned the CDL, and they are exactly right. As soon as you cross that threshold, you are upping the ante not just in licensing terms, but many states also have their own bureaucracies that deal with state commercial vehicles. That drivers physical can be a problem for some of us. We sure have that here, and when you meet the limits for it, you need to register with the Cal Trans department, get inspected every two years, stop at the scales every time, enter the pull notice program for drug testing, display your numbers on the truck or trailer, and pay weight fees for commercial registration. I'm probably leaving out a few.
 
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Here in Mississippi, I think you don't need CDL's until 26,000 lbs? I've got class D license for when I used to haul pulpwood wood five years ago. I've never had any problems with my dump trailer with the law, and I load it down! And this is a redneck state, you can get away with about anything here!!!
 
Here in Mississippi, I think you don't need CDL's until 26,000 lbs? !!!

That usually applies to a single vehicle, the truck. When you have a combination of vehicles though, there are again, usually different weight classes, and length classes. Some states may have looser restrictions, but most of them had to adopt the federal standards so that all state commercial drivers licenses would be accepted in every state because they engaged in interstate commerce.

My 1 ton pick-up does not require CDL, but hauling a trailer over 8,000 lbs or if the two coupled together exceeded 40 feet, then a CDL is required. Likewise for any air brakes, any hazardous cargo including you hauling x amount of propane, certain fertilizers, chemicals etc, even if it's for your own use. Many people violate the CDL laws without knowing it these days because so may things you take for granted as having done that for years are now unlawful without CDL. The unfortunate thing is you can be netted by feds without regard to how redneck your state is, because they can fine you separately from your locals. Also, it is not at all unheard of that instead of just issuing you a cite, they make you park the vehicle until a driver with the proper class can drive it for you.
 
It's all been argued on here before but I finally found it myself for Va. and I'm pretty sure it's national. If the trailer is over 9,999 you need a cdl.
Where you're at they might not care right now, but know it's coming eventually. My guys get pulled over on a regular basis and checked out, not their fault it's just how it is here.
 
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