A Paint Question

[2dogs]

OK I'm a dumbass. I misposted in the wrong forum. Duh! Here is my second try.

I need to "unmark" about 100 trees that were marked with pink paint. i tried graffit remover, didn't work. Next I am going to try a rasp and a wire brush. If that does not work I will try a wire whell on a hand grinder. I don't want to use a gouge or a knife blade and risk scarring the trees. Most are DG so the bark is thick. Any suggestions.

 

[Junior]

What about painting over the paint? Might cover it up enough? I've used rattle can camoflauge paint to hide marks.

 

[yooper]

so you need to remove it so they wont be cut down? if not let them be it will fade in time if it was done with tree marking paint.

 

[howellhandmade]

What about painting over the paint? Might cover it up enough? I've used rattle can camoflauge paint to hide marks.

Exactly -- I read this over on another forum, and thought, paint over with brown paint. As the the trees grow and weather, both colors should degrade or flake off together.

Jack

 

[slowp]

We use black. It too is our secret paint formula. But I think you are doing it for visual purposes? We do it when the prescription changes prior to the sale being sold, or I :censored: up when markiing. You could rub some dirt in with the black paint, and it would look more natural. We've done that too. Brown would look better. But we have trained fallers to NOT cut anything with black paint on it, unless it has blue or green on top of the black, which is usually on top of blue....

 

[2dogs]

I had not thought of camoing the pink paint with brown or black. I'll give it a try. THANKS everyone!

 

[Nuzzy]

Why not paint it with POR-15 while you're at it and help protect the tree from rust

 

[2dogs]

The rasp, wire brush, and golok didn't work too well. I gues a repaint is next followed by a mud bath. Thanks for the help.

 

[rngrchad]

We use black. It too is our secret paint formula. But we have trained fallers to NOT cut anything with black paint on it, unless it has blue or green on top of the black, which is usually on top of blue....

I'm so colorblind that I laughed real good to your post.

 

[goatchin]

I'm so colorblind that I laughed real good to your post.

haha you bring up a good point...Slowp, in this case, is it a prerequisite that fallers in Washington can NOT be colorblind for these such situations? LOL

 

[Humptulips]

We use black. It too is our secret paint formula. But I think you are doing it for visual purposes? We do it when the prescription changes prior to the sale being sold, or I :censored: up when markiing. You could rub some dirt in with the black paint, and it would look more natural. We've done that too. Brown would look better. But we have trained fallers to NOT cut anything with black paint on it, unless it has blue or green on top of the black, which is usually on top of blue....

I know some logging companies that did the same thing. Apparently it is legal for anyone to buy spray paint even if they don't work for the FS. I was interviewed by the Federal Marshalls Service once and no I didn't do it. One guy I worked for spent 30 days in prison. That was back in the 80s. Lot of stuff went on then.

 

[slowp]

Lots of stuff did go on then. But I still get teased to give or sell some paint.
I don't tease back about that. Two FS guys were selling it in Mississippi or Alabama or somewhere. I think they got thrown in jail or something too. If we lose a can, we better spend a lot of time looking for it. I lost my whole paint gun on the bad day of getting stung by bees. The road builder helped me look, the gun was bright orange, and we found it. It slipped out of my backpack pocket. We sign it out, and we sign it back in. We get audited by others. They actually go and count the paint. It has to be locked up in a pretty secure place. That paint is serious stuff.

The FS paint is a secret formula that can easily be tested to tell it from over the counter paint.
Supposedly only one or two people know the formula. If they divulge it to you, they have to kill you.

But I don't know how they know what box to put it in or label to put on it. It is made by blind people!

Most of our timber is now Designation by Description. The purchaser marks it. It is described how to mark it by stump diameters so it can be checked before and after cutting. They use over the counter paint.

 

[Cowboy Billy]

I was wondering if the paint color has any specific meaning. Do you use one color for property boundary and another for logging roads going in. Is there a standard or a general agreement that you use this color for this purpose.

I have a 120 acres of woods and I want to paint the property line. Then use a different color for marking where I want to put my trails in. If there is no standard what colors do you think would be the best for visibility and last the longest.

Thanks Billy

 

[Humptulips]

Lots of stuff did go on then. But I still get teased to give or sell some paint.
I don't tease back about that. Two FS guys were selling it in Mississippi or Alabama or somewhere. I think they got thrown in jail or something too. If we lose a can, we better spend a lot of time looking for it. I lost my whole paint gun on the bad day of getting stung by bees. The road builder helped me look, the gun was bright orange, and we found it. It slipped out of my backpack pocket. We sign it out, and we sign it back in. We get audited by others. They actually go and count the paint. It has to be locked up in a pretty secure place. That paint is serious stuff.

The FS paint is a secret formula that can easily be tested to tell it from over the counter paint.
Supposedly only one or two people know the formula. If they divulge it to you, they have to kill you.

But I don't know how they know what box to put it in or label to put on it. It is made by blind people!

Most of our timber is now Designation by Description. The purchaser marks it. It is described how to mark it by stump diameters so it can be checked before and after cutting. They use over the counter paint.

Most of the shenanigans then involved moving cutting lines which were tags and not paint and switching branding hammers so loads from high priced sales mysteriously got brands from low priced sales.
I know one FS compliance officers was on the take for sure. It was at a time when a lot of purchasers got stuck with high priced sales in a time of plummetting log prices. For some it was that or bankruptcy and otherwise honest people crossed the line and mostly they ended up going bankrupt anyway. The times were simililar to now except now the FS doesn't have much timber out on contract. I do know a couple guys around here that will probably go under now too.

 

[slowp]

Most of the shenanigans then involved moving cutting lines which were tags and not paint and switching branding hammers so loads from high priced sales mysteriously got brands from low priced sales.
I know one FS compliance officers was on the take for sure. It was at a time when a lot of purchasers got stuck with high priced sales in a time of plummetting log prices. For some it was that or bankruptcy and otherwise honest people crossed the line and mostly they ended up going bankrupt anyway. The times were simililar to now except now the FS doesn't have much timber out on contract. I do know a couple guys around here that will probably go under now too.

I've heard of a guy there who did bad stuff. It isn't worth it. Because of that, we have to do a lot of more time consuming things. Boundaries are painted, tagged, and flagged. We check the paint on the boundaries to see what kind it is. And there aren't as many loads coming out so it would be harder to switch brands. I have 2 sales going next to each other, same mill, so we don't let one sale operate while the other is, unless the units are farther apart. And, now we've gone more to lump sum sales--paid for based on the cruise volume, not the scale. That makes more work for me, but keeps the scaling bureau out of things--one less step and one less chance for anybody wanting to cheat.