Aftermarket exhaust brake

[mattfr12]

I was trying to find information on where to get one and who installs them. wanted to put one on my bucket truck if i could find a place to do it.

also if anyone else could help or has done this before to one of thier trucks please chime in and let me know if its even worth it.

we just have some pretty steep hill around here and after the bucket truck the rest of them all got a 3 stage jake in it or i wasnt even interested.

 

[bigbadbob]

What engine what transmission???
Some can have exhaust brakes some jakes some retarders.
At work there was a altec digger derrick with a 3116 Cat and a allison auto, added a exhaust brake, it worked but not very well at all.
Made lots of noise,,,

 

[mattfr12]

dt 466 i think the trans is a manual eaton fuller.

 

[bigbadbob]

dt 466 i think the trans is a manual eaton fuller.

We had Telsta's with DT466 Allison auto with the exhaust brake and did work quite well.
Probably work better with a manual.

 

[mattfr12]

Ya that's good news just wanna try and make my brakes last a little longer.

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[jefflovstrom]

Ya that's good news just wanna try and make my brakes last a little longer.

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Jeff

 

[dbl612]

exhaust brake

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Jeff

probably about 20% as effective as a compression (jacobs) brake. most effective at upper25% of engine rpm range. disappointing at best as an add-on component. the late model dt466 ih engines are engineered with an exhaust brake option that is very effective, but has to be spec. on the engine originally, as the internals are different. regards, tom.

 

[jefflovstrom]

probably about 20% as effective as a compression (jacobs) brake. most effective at upper25% of engine rpm range. disappointing at best as an add-on component. the late model dt466 ih engines are engineered with an exhaust brake option that is very effective, but has to be spec. on the engine originally, as the internals are different. regards, tom.

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Jeff

 

[dbl612]

exhaust brake

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Jeff

hey jeff, hows this for a non-technical description? after we had our local wendell (he also knows all) install an exhaust brake on one of our new 33k gvw trucks, the drivers comment was "it reminds me of clipping baseball cards to rub on the spokes of bike wheels, makes a nice noise but does little else". my regards to wendells everywhere! LOL!

 

[jefflovstrom]

hey jeff, hows this for a non-technical description? after we had our local wendell (he also knows all) install an exhaust brake on one of our new 33k gvw trucks, the drivers comment was "it reminds me of clipping baseball cards to rub on the spokes of bike wheels, makes a nice noise but does little else". my regards to wendells everywhere! LOL!

You got me, I am gonna ask and tell you what I hear.
Sucks cause I am thinking about a F-650 that could be better.
Jeff

 

[dbl612]

exhaust brake

You got me, I am gonna ask and tell you what I hear.
Sucks cause I am thinking about a F-650 that could be better.
Jeff

jeff, in that application, considering the lower gvw of the f650, you probably would see an improvement in the ex brake performance. also bear in mind were in the land of hills from hell. not shure how the terrain is where you are. regards, tom.

 

[mattfr12]

ok the brake goes in next wens day so ill do a review tomorrow ill load the truck full of logs in the lot and go down a 13% grade before the brake i also have scales so i can weigh the truck for accuracy. then on wens day ill do it with the brake and you guys can decide for yourself. i figured it couldn't hurt it wasn't a huge investment 2300.00 out the door installed by international. ill strap the helmet cam to the gauge cluster so you can see for yourself what happens. even if it helps 20% as much as a jake thats good enough for me.

 

[mattfr12]

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Jeff if you have any advice on this please let me know because if its absolutely terrible i can think of some cooler things to blow 2300.00 bones on. if I'm headed in the right track let it roll thanks.

 

[lxt]

Matt.........I would check with the local ordinances where you work!!! unless you`re c`mon down green tree hill all the time? but other than that...........Im pretty sure the areas you`re working have ordinances against "jake" brakes & exhaust brakes in general... its around a $500 fine for the first offense & goes up from there!!

you have an Eaton fuller tranny? then use a lower gear & save $2300.00!!


LXT................

 

[treemandan]

ok the brake goes in next wens day so ill do a review tomorrow ill load the truck full of logs in the lot and go down a 13% grade before the brake i also have scales so i can weigh the truck for accuracy. then on wens day ill do it with the brake and you guys can decide for yourself. i figured it couldn't hurt it wasn't a huge investment 2300.00 out the door installed by international. ill strap the helmet cam to the gauge cluster so you can see for yourself what happens. even if it helps 20% as much as a jake thats good enough for me.

Well if we don't hear from you we will assume you ended up in the Manongahaila. Did I spell that right?

 

[mattfr12]

Well if we don't hear from you we will assume you ended up in the Manongahaila. Did I spell that right?

im not sure if you spelled it right either. but the reason I'm after one is the only way into my town is three 13% grade hills or steeper that a few drivers a year loose their brakes on and we haul heavy not illegal but the crane has a three stage jake on it from the factory with works wonders. i don't expect it to work as well as this but hoping it helps.

the exhaust brake is going on an international with a hook lift GVW 52k has 20 foot log body and 20 foot chip body with a morbark 2400xl on the back it is a heavy rig when your loaded pulling the chipper. the chipper alone is around 10k. plus a payload of over 20k.

LXT you are right but i don't intend on using it their in small towns like mount lebanon I'm usually just putting around and don't need a jake or exhaust. but the hills coming into my town is no joke one is at least 2 miles long and theirs no way around them any way we come in we are either climbing or going down a steep hill. if their is any accumulation of snow on the ground the trucks don't leave for that reason.

if its an emergency my pickup is plumed with hydraulic out the back and ill actually go spread salt in front of it while going if someone has something on their roof i got a stainless tub spreader.

green tree hill is atleast once a week for us also

we blew a chipper tire in the middle of the fort pitt tunnel last week cleaning up a job for AA he might have pictures of it. picked up a piece of metal at 55mph and it completely exploded chipper actually hit the back of the truck i didn't notice that it did that in till i got home and the radiator guard was bent.

it sounded like a bomb went off i muffed my rim all up i had to drag it for half a mile on the rim to get the tunnel back open.

LXT you are correct tho i have been warned about my jake before i just am careful where i use it now.

 

[mattfr12]

Well if we don't hear from you we will assume you ended up in the Manongahaila. Did I spell that right?

job would have to be some serious dough for me to travel to the mon river also only been that far twice so far. thats almost an hour ride. the one time we did go down a bunch of trees fell over on a guys boat dock and they where in shallow water so we kinda set up an elaborate pulley system like you did to winch them out of the water to an oak tree on top of the hill. worked really well. people get mad when they can't use their boat docks down their.

i dunno if anyone else gets into the but its not that uncommon for us the new lake view estates in cherry valley around us we took some trees out of coves that where hitting peoples boats but those people are all millionaires even used my dads little john boat to tug some of the limbs closer to shore.

 

[deevo]

We have stock jake brake on our 102' Gruman Aerialcat platform at the firehall, and we have some big hills as well, but man I swear they are barely effective, truck weighs in at 70,000 lbs! It goes thru brakes like you wouldn't believe either! I would hate to be the one who pulls out in front of it by accident! They would become a hood ornament very quickly. I actually hate driving the thing, and I don't much because I am a Captain and ride in the Officers seat more often depending on how many guys we have around (we are volunteer) Just remember to turn them off on slippery roads or winter driving as I sure you do

 

[treemandan]

job would have to be some serious dough for me to travel to the mon river also only been that far twice so far. thats almost an hour ride. the one time we did go down a bunch of trees fell over on a guys boat dock and they where in shallow water so we kinda set up an elaborate pulley system like you did to winch them out of the water to an oak tree on top of the hill. worked really well. people get mad when they can't use their boat docks down their.

i dunno if anyone else gets into the but its not that uncommon for us the new lake view estates in cherry valley around us we took some trees out of coves that where hitting peoples boats but those people are all millionaires even used my dads little john boat to tug some of the limbs closer to shore.

I thought you are up around Pittsburgh.

I just have the F350 dump which is basically overloaded when empty. I am always ready to down shift and start pumping the brakes. Its the dips in the right hand side of the roads that scare me. I stacked 2 chords in it for the first time this year, never again.

 

[treemandan]

Yeah, you can't use a Jake or exhaust brake in town... BUT you can scream around all hours of the night in a little super tuner all you want.

I was driving this old Gmc tree truck, it was fully loaded towing a chipper, it was old, no power brakes, steering. Saw a cop had someone pulled over in the right lane so I slowed down and got into the left. With no signal or warning the cops pulls out into my lane and scares the Hell out of me. We ended up having an argument on the road. He was hollering at me, I was hollering at him, the crew couldn't beleive it, they were just trying not to get deported. In the end he won, of course, but he knew how close he came to being roadkill. In retrospect I guess I should have just flattened him. It was on a steep hill coming out of Chestnut Hill, in fact it was Chestnut Hill. Yeah, i am always careful with a load on, never skimp on the brake work. I had my F350 inspected, they put badges on it, in my mind I was thinking " Man, didn't they see that rusty brake line"? It blew out after I stacked them 2 chords on. Good thing it happened in my yard.

Rick has this humongous container truck, man, its something to see go bobbin down the road. This thing is huge and heavy, I think its a 60 yard container. These are all small, windey,hilly country roads around here.