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Leave it!!!

Use a distel or vt hitch. Distel is very short actioned. How often do you really have to change the tress cord? Twice a month? Costing a $1.15 a piece to make (42" of sta set at 33 cents a foot) thats $2.30 a month, $28 a year. It would take 5 years to pay off the ART (I think they are like $180?) but your suppose to retire that gear every 5 years (or is it 2?).

Not worth the money, I can get the same thing with a distel or VT.
 
I agree and disagree,
The P is a good lanyard adjuster, if you can budget it. A hitch adjuster as LJ mentions is also very good and a frction of the cost. Either will work well.
LJ you really changing tress cord on your lanyard 2 times a month?

Lanyard tress sees so little wear, i have some that years old and still in great shape.
 
Lumberjack said:
Leave it!!!

Not worth the money, I can get the same thing with a distel or VT.


LJ yer kinda right. I felt that way and I used a distel and then a vt for about 2 years. Much better than a gibbs, but not as smooth as the ART. Tress cords eventually hold the knots shape and bind a little. I don't care how much the ART costs. Climbing makes me money and it is also my favorite hobby. ;)

-Mike-
 
Money isnt a real object for me either. I do like function though.

Top Hopper, heck no, climbing every day I might change it once a month or every other month. They see very little wear. I was thinking for the every day climber who climbes 12 hours a day with no lunch and uses his lanyard like its going out of style.

2 in a month would be aweful!
 
funny say GRI GRI .... used 8 years... jus kiddin bros :blob2: but not about the years and the talk about gibbs ... oh boy .. :dizzy:
 
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I like the VT too and change it every 3 months or so. My body is wearing out so my style is very equipment dependant.

The only "problem" with the positioner is that it's so sensitive that it can release if you have a branch pressing against it. This is from the design, because it's suposed to be easilly adjusted under load.

I'm told that once you get used to it, and adapt your style to it, there is no problem whatsoever.
 
mikecross23 said:
LJ yer kinda right. I felt that way and I used a distel and then a vt for about 2 years. Much better than a gibbs, but not as smooth as the ART. Tress cords eventually hold the knots shape and bind a little. I don't care how much the ART costs. Climbing makes me money and it is also my favorite hobby. ;)

-Mike-


try a 3-1 v.t on your lanyard and then tell me its not smoother than the ART
 
I never found the positioner to be easy to release under load. I don't know what the problem was, but I used it for a month or two and never really liked it for more than the CF (coolness factor). I switched back to a cordage type adjustor and have never missed the positioner since.

love
nick
 
NickfromWI said:
I never found the positioner to be easy to release under load. I don't know what the problem was, but I used it for a month or two and never really liked it for more than the CF (coolness factor). I switched back to a cordage type adjustor and have never missed the positioner since.

love
nick


Guess I'm the odd man out. I like it. :dizzy:
 
My friction hitch on D has about no play. i'm not sure on how ART works, but any cam device works on leverging more force on the rope than the actual pull is i think; so harder to adjust without thumbing etc. when loaded. If rope diameter is proper to cam/shell; the point of force on rope lines up with cam pivot and shell, giving even more problem i think.
 
The positioner is awesome but i believe the disadvantages out weigh the advantages.
One of the best things is it doesn't seem to stop when your lanyard is covered in resin etc.

I have just changed from a distal hitch to a knut, had a micro pulley on both. The knut doesn't need a micro pully on hard, braded lanyard rope aswell.
 

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