Bad Rope

[jg55056]

Anyone else have any bad experiences with Sherrill's "Pro Stripe" 16 strand rope? I bought 150ft of it and have had over 3 ft of the outer cover slide off the core. This has been a big problem because it bunches up to the point that your hitch won't slide properly. It's better now; after working over 3 ft of slack out of the cover. I called Sherrill, but they said I'd have to send it in (at my own expense) to have it checked. Not too convenient for me. I've since bought Samson's 16 strand "Yellow Jacket", which has worked excellent.

 

[Gord]

You should milk the cover on any new rope; just leave the ends unwhipped/melted and milk it towards one end a few times, cut off the excess sheath then climb on it for a day or so before you seize the ends. I agree that 3' is a bit much tho, not being familiar with the rope I couldn't tell you if it's ordinary or not but I would think not.

 

[jg55056]

Thanks for the input. It was the first rope of mine that that had happened to in such an extreme way. Previous to the Pro Stripe I used New England, which had very little slop in it.

 

[NeTree]

I definitely prefer the Safety-Blue over the Pro-Stripe. I didn't like feel and handling as much.

 

[geofore]

milking rope

If you think you have it all milked out, think again, turn the rope end to end and milk it the other direction. Mark the rope ends so you remember which end is which and turn it around as you use it, in a few climbs you should have it milked out. Then cut the excess and seize the ends. I did not have that problem with the Blue Streak, yours sound like it is excessive. Though that would have been enough to splice loops in the ends. Where is Nick when you need him?

 

[Tom Dunlap]

You guys should have been around during the first couple of years of Blue Streak. It was common to milk off six feet of cover from a 120' rope. It took Samson a while to get their machines tensioned correctly.

Milking shouldn't be a big marker against any rope. That's part of breaking in most ropes.

Almost every other tool needs some kind of break in period, why not ropes? Consider it dating before you get married Are you ready for the committment?

Tom

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

I like his analogy. New rope, like life with a new wife, will take some adjustment.

Some milking is not a life threatening problem, at least not that I'm aware of. And what's the difference if it milks 2" or 2'? You still gotta cut the end off and whip/re-whip.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Rocky,

The only time that milking has ever effected me while climbing is at the end of a descent, generally within a few feet of the ground. Milking doesn't translate into slipping while climbing.

It's not a defect. PERIOD. Don't use milking as a condemnation notice. Nor a measure of quality. It's a characteristic of the rope to be considered along with other characteristics.

Much like personalities of participants on AS. Nudge, nudge, know what I mean, know what I mean...nods as good as a wink to a blind man...

Tom

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Originally posted by TreeCo
When using a rope that needs a lot of milking how does the use of spliced eyes fit in? Surely both ends can't be spliced with eyes.

For this reason some manufactures do not recomend 2 eye splices on climbing lines. For a while Sherrill would not double splice one either.

IMO all that sheat extention does is make the end use diameter slightly smaller. It should not effect the tensile, because a straighter fiber is stronger, but it may effect the elasticity somewhat.

 

[lync]

12 strand

I guess I'm one of the few who likes a 12 strand rope. Yale
xtc-12, works well for me, and no milking required,Mooooo!!

Corey

 

[NickfromWI]

You know Yale makes a 12 strand that's splicable? Something to consider, eh?

love
nick

 

[Gord]

Are you talking about buzz line Nick? If so I think that it's only spliceable at the factory as they detension the braid at the site to be spliced. But you probably knew that

 

[NickfromWI]

Buzzzline (with 3 Z's)....yep, they do it in shop. I *******ized mine. I undid the splice and re-spliced it with a locking brummell. I have a 7' hank that I use for my adjustable friction saver. Works nice.

love
nick