Well now that I finally got logged in, seems as if someone wants to use my user name in here, the forum sent me their IP address so we will see where that leads if anywhere. Anyway back to saw stuff, what is the best chain for cutting stumps out of the dirt. Also would you want to run a solid bar vs a sprocket tip. Hopefully someone has some tips for me besides a stump grinder.
Best chain for cutting stuff in the dirt.
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sperho
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RiverRat2
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Round Chisel (Semi) chain and a durotip (Solid) bar,,,
If you can do some excavating and have access to water and a good stiff bristle bush try to remove as much dirt as you can,,,,, when you go to do the job ya better take a hand full of chains cause your gonna dull em quick
If you can do some excavating and have access to water and a good stiff bristle bush try to remove as much dirt as you can,,,,, when you go to do the job ya better take a hand full of chains cause your gonna dull em quick
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Thanks for the quick turn around guys. Seems like dirt to a chain is like kryptonite is to S-man. I was thinking carbide but would like something that could take a lot of dirt if their is such a thing without having to be resharpened every 3 stumps. I dig down on the stumps to remove as much dirt as possible but its impossible not putting the chain in the dirt.
The best thing would be carbide on a hard nose bar. Stihl RM chain would be be good other than carbide chain.
billyjoejr
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I'll give you a shortcut.
I spent as much money, taking 4 rm chains to get sharpened several times, as renting a stump grinder would have been. And I am still not done with the three stumps. Now I am taking my time with an old axe.
Time, frustration, money and the damn rocks imbedded in the cottonwood stumps roots.
Next time it's a stump grinder for me.
I spent as much money, taking 4 rm chains to get sharpened several times, as renting a stump grinder would have been. And I am still not done with the three stumps. Now I am taking my time with an old axe.
Time, frustration, money and the damn rocks imbedded in the cottonwood stumps roots.
Next time it's a stump grinder for me.
joesawer
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Cutters Edge sells the most impact and abrasion resistant saw chain I have ever seen. It is called "Bullet" chain, and is marketed to the fire/rescue industry. It is pricey, but works. For more info just google Cutters Edge.
Jack_Shaft
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It is here: http://www.cuttersedge.com/products/bullet.html
But does it really cut any good? Can you sharpen it with a regular round file (I'd say no just by looking at it)? Looks pretty tough, that's for sure.
I was thinking that it would cut so slow cuting sold wood that it wouldnt be worth it. Thats my thought. I bet it cuts a vent hole in the roof well! even a tin one.
joesawer
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No, you don't sharpen it.
It cuts slow. Faster than it looks like it would. Not as slow as a badly rocked chain. It just keeps on cutting at about the same speed. I was really very impressed with it.
It cuts slow. Faster than it looks like it would. Not as slow as a badly rocked chain. It just keeps on cutting at about the same speed. I was really very impressed with it.
Al Smith
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Just use an old chain which is about on it's last go around.You can spend a kings ransom on a carbide chain but most people that have used them will say it is a waste of money.
Next to milling,stumping is about the hardest service you can subject a saw to.Most of the tree services around here keep an old half worn out 100 cc or bigger saw just for the purpose of stumping.If they screw up the saw or bar/chain,it was nearly gone any way.
Next to milling,stumping is about the hardest service you can subject a saw to.Most of the tree services around here keep an old half worn out 100 cc or bigger saw just for the purpose of stumping.If they screw up the saw or bar/chain,it was nearly gone any way.
RED-85-Z51
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I kept my Poulan XXV running for the soul purpose of cutting small stuff off at the ground. I cut up a 20foot pool liner that was sitting on a layer of sand. It made a mess of the chain. Towads the end of cutting it up, the teeth were just about gone, but it was dull to begin with.
I bought a band new Oregon Sprocket tip 18" bar, and had band new Oregon Full Chisel put on it, and I put it on my Tanaka. I cut a few limbs and it was amazing.
I went to cut a 4" root that I had dug around, it was too close to a water main for my liking. I cut through it, and the bar dipped into the dirt...
That little dip in the dirt rendered my brand new chain completely useless. Couldnt cut hardly anything after that, it was barely thowing dust out the back.
Ive found that Semi Chisel seems to tolerate dirt a little better than full chisel, dont know why.
I bought a band new Oregon Sprocket tip 18" bar, and had band new Oregon Full Chisel put on it, and I put it on my Tanaka. I cut a few limbs and it was amazing.
I went to cut a 4" root that I had dug around, it was too close to a water main for my liking. I cut through it, and the bar dipped into the dirt...
That little dip in the dirt rendered my brand new chain completely useless. Couldnt cut hardly anything after that, it was barely thowing dust out the back.
Ive found that Semi Chisel seems to tolerate dirt a little better than full chisel, dont know why.
Al Smith
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Chipper is even more forgiving than semi chisel.
joesawer
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Austin1
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Me too! Or a pound of ffffg black powder ah never mind.I'll give you a shortcut.
I spent as much money, taking 4 rm chains to get sharpened several times, as renting a stump grinder would have been. And I am still not done with the three stumps. Now I am taking my time with an old axe.
Time, frustration, money and the damn rocks imbedded in the cottonwood stumps roots.
Next time it's a stump grinder for me.
lawson's tree s
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rapco chain works good for cutting dirty wood.
RED-85-Z51
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Ya know, my Grandfather never had to worry about all this crap...chains in dirt, chisels...none of it.
He'd lop the tree off about a foot off the ground, dig a access hole under it...strategically place a couple sticks of Dynamite, set the caps, and run off to the box. The stump would usually land a few yards from the hole, free of all roots, waiting for the Tractor and chain to drag it to the burn pit.
Keep in mind this was in..1955, give or take, on about 180 acres in Michigan.
I wish I could get ahold of some of that stuff...Im always finding myself in situations where it would come in handy. Like when people run red lights....
He'd lop the tree off about a foot off the ground, dig a access hole under it...strategically place a couple sticks of Dynamite, set the caps, and run off to the box. The stump would usually land a few yards from the hole, free of all roots, waiting for the Tractor and chain to drag it to the burn pit.
Keep in mind this was in..1955, give or take, on about 180 acres in Michigan.
I wish I could get ahold of some of that stuff...Im always finding myself in situations where it would come in handy. Like when people run red lights....
