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chipper

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I am going out on my own pretty soon and could use some advice on bidding jobs. Hourly Vs. by the job etc.. any input helps. Thanks
 
We factor in both hourly and difficulty. Bottom line, you have to set an hourly rate that you can make money at no matter what the job. Having said that, you will need to know what you and your crew can accomplish in an hour.
 
So, you would raise the hourly rate for more demanding jobs? Or keep the same hourly rate just with more crew.
 
We work with 4 man crew and stick with that. If you added more crew members that would lower your rate (more people to pay). A more demanding job is going to take more time. Time is money. Our motto is "you can never get too much" money that is :blob2:
 
I see. You got that right, you can never have too much! Thanks for the info.
 
Are you an optimist or a pessimist?

If you are a pessimist-You are right . This probably won't work. Just stick with the lousy job you have that probably won't last anyway.

You are an optimist? Oh, of course, why else would you have thought of going solo in the tree business?. So, Mr. Optimist, when you go to look at a job, try to break it down into sections and make an accurate estimate of the time involved for each segment. Add up the time, multipy by your hourly target rate.--- Now for just a moment become a pessimist. You are a stinking optimist. Get real! You KNOW that you were too optimistic about how fast that would all go. Add 50% to your total. Revert to optimism. Smile confidently and submit your bid. :angel:
 
I aggree. I accidentally stumbled in here one fine day, and immediately signed up. Since then I have been more serious in tree work. It's good to have a bunch of people around who have the same hobbies and interests. good stuff!
 
Stumper: that is quite a way to look at it. I like! So I would have to become the most pessimistic optimist to give a good bid. Heh!
 
I take my hourly rate (or man hour rate) and multiply it by the number of hours it will take me to do the job. If the job is going to be complicated it takes longer, so its already in the bid.

I will add some to the total if the home/buisness owner looks like they are going to be difficult to deal with or will be constantly bugging me. BEWARE of retired old ladies!!

I will also add some if the job is on the other side of town which=more driving= more gas and time. Also, if i need to rent or contract other help (crane, skid steer, ect) it gets added to the job cost.

My hourly rate varies depending on how many people are working, I bid 41.66 dollars a man hour, or 125 an hour for a 3 man crew. As you develop more of an overhead you should be able to do more per hour, so your hourly rate should go up, but not the total price of the job (with all other variables being the same) because you will be in and out faster.
 

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