Biggest chainsaw winch??

[MOE]

Does anyone make a chainsaw winch bigger than the 4000 lb in bailys?
I have multiple needs for a winch but need more like 8,000+ capacity for dragging dead tractors with flat tires onto a trailer. I have a good 85cc powerhead.

 

[Simonizer]

Does anyone make a chainsaw winch bigger than the 4000 lb in bailys?
I have multiple needs for a winch but need more like 8,000+ capacity for dragging dead tractors with flat tires onto a trailer. I have a good 85cc powerhead.

The Lewis winch is the best I have heard of. With various block and tackle you can pull whatever you want. 100000 lbs if you have the time.

 

[clearance]

The Lewis winch is the best I have heard of. With various block and tackle you can pull whatever you want. 100000 lbs if you have the time.

All very well and good to start adding blocks and multipling power to achieve what you want, just stay within the safe working loads of the cable/blocks that are being used. And the safe working load is not close to the ultimate tensile strength of the cable/blocks, something to think about.

 

[Simonizer]

All very well and good to start adding blocks and multipling power to achieve what you want, just stay within the safe working loads of the cable/blocks that are being used. And the safe working load is not close to the ultimate tensile strength of the cable/blocks, something to think about.

You are correct. (Except you cannot multiply power). You can multiply force at the exact inverse of speed, power remains the same.

 

[Lawn Masters]

I would think the cable would be the limiting factor. the stock stuff is only capable of pulling so much before it overloads and snaps. the cables safe working load would be your limiting factor, along with the strength of the winch innards.

 

[clearance]

Whatcha gonna use for the tailhold Simon? There are many factors in rigging (I know, experts abound here), it is no light matter, various factors come into play. You start playing around with that kind of wieght and force, you had better know what is up. Stay out of the bight.

 

[computeruser]

I'm not familiar with any such product, but even if I was I would be very hesitant to stand so close to a cable that is pulling 8000lbs+.

Heck, I often feel that the 12 foot remote on the winch on my Jeep is too short for comfort. Standing nearly in-line when using a saw-powered winch? Not if I can help it!

 

[Rotax Robert]

You are correct. (Except you cannot multiply power). You can multiply force at the exact inverse of speed, power remains the same.

You are correct, except for rotational friction loss thru the block/blocks.

Rotax

 

[Madsaw]

For the safety factor and all, just go buy a big winch and install it on your trailer. A battery on the trailer and a set of heavy cables ran up to battery in the truck and you can move alot. I watched a guy load a 730 case diesel with a set up like that on day. Sure made my day of not having to help load the dead monster. He had it on the trailer faster then using the loader tractor to push it on. Ramsey makes some great winches, for the cost of them it would not be alot more then buying one for your saw that could possibly kill you
Later
Bob

 

[PWB]

Might seem like a dumb question on a chainsaw board, but why not just mount a decent sized electric winch on the trailer? Use an isolator and mount 2 or 3 deep cycle batteries on the trailer, truck charges them going down the road. Or go hydraulic and run it off the truck transmission...........

 

[clearance]

I like the winch on the trailer idea, as long as it is bolted down good. You could hang a block on the front of the tractor and then run the cable back to beside the winch, almost doubling the force (thank you S.). Or you could get a big Tirfor if you have lots of time!

 

[PWB]

OOPS! Looks like someone beat me to it! Great minds think alike.

 

[Simonizer]

You are correct, except for rotational friction loss thru the block/blocks.

Rotax

You are correct, don't forget audio losses if you want to split hairs. Thanks, S.Wright, M.Sc., P.Eng.

 

[MOE]

I would be after something with 3/8 cable. The breaking strength would be about 28,000 lbs with a single snatch block. The reason I thought about a chainsaw winch is that bolting a $1,000 dollar winch to a trailer limets the uses of it. I don't load enough dead tractors to let that much money sit on the trailer. If I had something portable I might use it other things as well,(or drag things just for fun).

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

OOPS! Looks like someone beat me to it! Great minds think alike.

Y'know, every time I would say that, my Mom would come back with "Fools never differ."





If you are going to mount a winch on the trailer, go first class and hook it up with something like this:

You'll need it. Warn's 16,500 lb winch pulls 500 amps at full load!

 

[clearance]

I would be after something with 3/8 cable. The breaking strength would be about 28,000 lbs with a single snatch block. The reason I thought about a chainsaw winch is that bolting a $1,000 dollar winch to a trailer limets the uses of it. I don't load enough dead tractors to let that much money sit on the trailer. If I had something portable I might use it other things as well,(or drag things just for fun).

Just to be certain that is a 3/8 cable run around a block, 14k on each side of the line and 28k on the block, right?. So the safe working load at 5-1 would be a little under 6k, assuming the cable was rated at 14k b.s. and in good shape? Am I right here?

 

[Bill G]

...........I don't load enough dead tractors to let that much money sit on the trailer. If I had something portable I might use it other things as well,(or drag things just for fun)..........

In a sense you answered your own question. Why wrap money up in something you do not use that much ? I have never used a winch to load a dead tractor, dead truck or any other dead item. If you are pulling a 5th wheel it is no brainer crank it at 90 degree angle and simply pull the tractor up with another truck or tractor. Yes depending on slope you may need to hang a block off the upper frame on your trailer but you will pull the tractor up with no problems. If you are using a bumper hitch trailer it is even easier. If you are uncomfortable with that then a puch stick will work but that is a terrible accident waiting to happen. I ran into trouble last month when we were hit with an ice storm and I had to use a hoe to load a chipper. It took a bit but we loaded it without a winch.

Bill

 

[Marco]

nobody has braught up airing the tires on the dead tractor. I personally winched a 930 Case onto a rollback that was locked in two gears and the wheels wouldn't turn, head below deck level and stop and look it over once in awhile. You could mount a hydraulic or electric winch on a bionic receiver tube setup so it could be removed and used elsewhere.

 

[sawn_penn]

The problem with electric winches is you run out of power real quick, unless you have an engine and alternator charging the battery.

Without a charging source, the numbers are pretty clear.

The energy density of lead acid batteries is ~35Wh/kg. The energy density of gasoline is ~12,000Wh/kg.

To match a 6 litre fuel jug you'ld need ~2000 kg of lead acid batteries.

I guess this is why the world is still an oil economy.

 

[Joseph lecount]

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