I can't believe I actually bought a "little" new saw. The handle on my Echo 305 cracked, and it's got quite a few years on it, so I was thinking about an Echo 310 to replace it. I think they wanted $199 for it. Then I walked down to Southern States to check out the little Stihls. The MS170 was on sale for $159. So, what the heck, I bought it. Now I have 4 Stihls, MS170, 08S, MS 290, and MS 660. Over 20 Homelites and 3 Echo's. I probably could have had a Homelite 150 running, but it's not shiney new. The MS 170 is about as shiney as my 660. I don't climb anymore, but I still need a little doodle bug saw. Hope it can hold up to me, Joe.