Break- a- way Lanyard.

[beastmaster]

I know that its not a good idea to use a weak link in your lanyard system, and the potential for disaster is there no doubt, but in a real shaky removal, being tied into a safe tip on another tree or crane is useless if you're attached to the hazard tree and it fails. I have unhooked a time or two while making a cut so I wouldn't be attached, that isn't real safe either. I have heard of others using key ring Carabiners, but I wouldn't trust one of those with my body weight.
I thought about big wire ties, but changing over would be a pain.
Also has anyone ever ran a belay on a top or branch? Maybe hooking a carabiner every 4 feet or so and running your rope through them, and use a dynamic mountain climbing type rope.
I don't think I would climb anything if I felt I had to do that with it, but I can be bought and in the right situation if nothen else it would give you a lot of piece of mind, and maybe save your A _ _.
I looked at a really dead and decayed euc today, No crane access, lots of stuff under it, I think I could name my price. So I'm just going over ideas in my head on how it could be done.

 

[formationrx]

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"I looked at a really dead and decayed euc today, No crane access, lots of stuff under it, I think I could name my price. So I'm just going over ideas in my head on how it could be done. "

be careful...
...i ve seen guys run a line tree to tree over the hazard tree... then they use a rigging hub to tie into right over the hazard tree... not sure if that would work here?... can you use another tree to guide the euc down real slow?... no bucket or crane? what about a spider or a genie?... how about a pic?... if i was in that situation id ask squad...

 

[imagineero]

I'm not sure what you're asking there.... belay a top or branch? You mean, like using a portawrap?

There are endless possibilities to set safety lines from trees far away if there are enough of them.

Don't be afraid to say no, or ask for things to be moved or tell them they will be damaged. I get worried when people are willing to pay 'any amount of money' to remove a dangerous tree because nobody else wants to climb it. My life is worth more than any tree. I've gotten a bit more willing to ask for things to be moved before I agree to do the job. Things like sheds, fences, gardens etc can all be moved out of the way to make for a safe drop. Sometimes it is quicker that way too. I prefer customers to pay someone else to remove/reinstall things like that. Too easy for extra expenses to crop up, and I'm a tree guy... not a builder.

Shaun

 

[Blakesmaster]

I know that its not a good idea to use a weak link in your lanyard system, and the potential for disaster is there no doubt, but in a real shaky removal, being tied into a safe tip on another tree or crane is useless if you're attached to the hazard tree and it fails. I have unhooked a time or two while making a cut so I wouldn't be attached, that isn't real safe either. I have heard of others using key ring Carabiners, but I wouldn't trust one of those with my body weight.
I thought about big wire ties, but changing over would be a pain.
Also has anyone ever ran a belay on a top or branch? Maybe hooking a carabiner every 4 feet or so and running your rope through them, and use a dynamic mountain climbing type rope.
I don't think I would climb anything if I felt I had to do that with it, but I can be bought and in the right situation if nothen else it would give you a lot of piece of mind, and maybe save your A _ _.
I looked at a really dead and decayed euc today, No crane access, lots of stuff under it, I think I could name my price. So I'm just going over ideas in my head on how it could be done.

In that situation I either won't lanyard into the tree, or if I need it for positioning I just prepare myself to cut it if #### goes bad. Never had to, and probably not the safest option, just what I do.

 

[Oldmaple]

Repeating don't be afraid to say no. Possible to knock it down in a direction with least property damage? Just looked at a dead Oak. Been dead for a few years, no bark, etc. Homeowner said it died last year. Tried to talk me into climbing it since it only died last year (bull). Told him I wouldn't climb it, the best I could do is rig it and drop it in this general direction which would be across his fence but away from the pool and shed. Then he tells me that the last two tree guys he had out wouldn't climb it either. The only guy who was willing to climb it was his daughters boyfriend who had watched his dad climb and cut down a tree. Can't believe people would risk someones life to save a few bucks. Scary.

 

[beastmaster]

I'm not sure what you're asking there.... belay a top or branch? You mean, like using a portawrap?
Shaun

Not the top or branch but the climber, though I guess any part of the top or branch that broke under your feet would have to be belayed down with you. Someone on the ground using a gri gri, or a porta wrap would feed you line as you went up. I read of this one time for skinny tops less then 4 inches dia. I think US forestry service does it.
I have a lot of experience in hazard trees. The cedar in my avatar was over 90 ft tall and was dead the last 1/3 of that, and was a hazard to hikers on a popular trail, had to climb it and take a small top so as not to shock it to much, in doing so climbed about 20 ft. higher then I felt comfortable with.
I have a self preservation mode that makes me stop at a certain point. The euc I looked at is over a newer multi-million dollar home that has never been lived in. No one will touch it. I know how I would do it, but I also know its about 2 years to late to do it safely. It could be done though. I was thinking about putting in an outragous bid, like $35,000.00 and see what happens

 

[BlackOakTreeServ]

Break a way lanyard for the chainsaw, that would be it for me....break a way for climbing lanyard would just be to dangerous, but I see your point on dead tree's and not being taken down with it if it broke, failed...