"BuckGrab" flipine adjuster from Buckingham

[sprung22]

Got it in the mail last week and am wondering if anyone tried it?Pro's,Con's what do you think about it?I have yet to try it out.

 

[RacerX]

It's this adjuster?

It looks like a standard flip line adjuster with a new twist, a half twist in the cam. IMO that's a good idea to keep the thing oriented in the right direction. Personally I'm no longer a fan of one way mechanical adjusters since they cannot be released under load. The one exception to that would be the A.R.T. Positioner which works more like a prusik and can be released under load.

 

[sprung22]

It's this adjuster?

It looks like a standard flip line adjuster with a new twist, a half twist in the cam. IMO that's a good idea to keep the thing oriented in the right direction. Personally I'm no longer a fan of one way mechanical adjusters since they cannot be released under load. The one exception to that would be the A.R.T. Positioner which works more like a prusik and can be released under load.

I used it today and like it better than a typical flipline adjuster but im in agreement with you about not being able to release it under load.What kind of setup do you use for your flipline?

 

[RacerX]

I've been using both prusiks and a similar cammed adjuster. I recently ordered an A.R.T. Positioner but haven't received it yet. I like that an adjuster is compact and doesn't lock up like a prusik but the part about not releasing under load I find bothersome so that's why I'm going to try out the A.R.T. The A.R.T. is much more expensive however.

 

[pdqdl]

Get 30" of Beeline or some other tress cord and a micropulley for slack adjustment. Then try out a VT, Distel, Schwabish, or some other friction hitch on your lanyard instead of a mechanical device.

Lighter and cheaper, I prefer it to the mechanical devices.

 

[sprung22]

Thank's for the input fella's i'm gonna try those out as well

 

[TreEmergencyB]

Get 30" of Beeline or some other tress cord and a micropulley for slack adjustment. Then try out a VT, Distel, Schwabish, or some other friction hitch on your lanyard instead of a mechanical device.

Lighter and cheaper, I prefer it to the mechanical devices.

i use 3/8 tenex tied into regular 4 wrap prussik

 

[pdqdl]

That old 4-wrap prussic is why I went to a mechanical lanyard adjuster. I think it grabs too well, and I don't think it would budge at all if you put a self tending micro pulley on it.

 

[TreEmergencyB]

That old 4-wrap prussic is why I went to a mechanical lanyard adjuster. I think it grabs too well, and I don't think it would budge at all if you put a self tending micro pulley on it.

it works fine for me if you load it good you might want to 'break" it to move, i use a keychain caribiner as my slack tender and it works well

 

[bruce6670]

i use 3/8 tenex tied into regular 4 wrap prussik

Same here but I use a pulley instead of the carabiner.
I haven't had any problems at all.

 

[pdqdl]

Well sure. You guys are 1/2 way to new school using 3/8" tenex, and I was formerly 100% old school.

That 4 wrap prussic loop on a lanyard does NOT slip real easy when you do it in a 1/2" 3 twisted strand rope on a 1/2" stable braid. It was even worse if you happened to put it on a 3-strand rope.

 

[bruce6670]

Well sure. You guys are 1/2 way to new school using 3/8" tenex, and I was formerly 100% old school.

That 4 wrap prussic loop on a lanyard does NOT slip real easy when you do it in a 1/2" 3 twisted strand rope on a 1/2" stable braid. It was even worse if you happened to put it on a 3-strand rope.

There may be better cord to use than 3/8" tenex but I use it on a 6' length of safety blue and it slides just fine.

 

[pdqdl]

When I said "1/2 way to new-school", I was referring to the use of the four loop prussic, rather than one of the newer friction hitches. I don't have any of that Tenex, but if you like it, then that is good enough for me.

I refuse to criticize someone for something that works, just because I don't do it that way. For all I know, your way is even better.

 

[TreEmergencyB]

When I said "1/2 way to new-school", I was referring to the use of the four loop prussic, rather than one of the newer friction hitches. I don't have any of that Tenex, but if you like it, then that is good enough for me.

I refuse to criticize someone for something that works, just because I don't do it that way. For all I know, your way is even better.

i really like using the ol skool prussic on my flip line nice short compact reliable i climb on the vt now and i didnt like it on my flipline

 

[pdqdl]

That's funny.

I put the VT on my lanyard before I would try it on the climbing line. I liked it so well, I retired the microscender.