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tom john

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Hello all I am new to this buisness and I know my limits on what not to take on,I have cut trees for about 10 years but from the ground and I purchased a double d saddle buckingham gaffs and a wire core flip line and I am extremely wanting to learn to climb and top trees.and I watched all the videos on the site and it is something that I want to learn,I have been soaking up as much info as possible before I get into it,I have tried to climb and went fairley well but I don't know anything about the rope climbing or the knots used to do this.but after watching the videos it looks to me that this is something that I need to learn,are there any videos online that explains and shows you how to tie and use this system,because I know safety is first and formost,and I would like to get started right not wrong.
 
yellow pages

you could start by looking to local tree companies and seeing if you could work for them for a while. Untill you learn the "ropes"(I know bad pun, shoot me now)
 
Man I'll say it AGAIN. Buy a copy of the "Tree Climbers' Companion", buy yourself a rope and get hired by a respectable arborist, not some hack that spikes all. "Topping" trees is tres passe, and you are not likely to get much support here if that is your aim in life. As for knots do a search for knots on this site, or google.....try tree climbing knots

eg http://www.wtsherrill.com/treetips/treetips.asp?idAtype=rec
 
Tree Climbers Companion

tom john said:
Hello all I am new to this buisness and I know my limits on what not to take on,I have cut trees for about 10 years but from the ground and I purchased a double d saddle buckingham gaffs and a wire core flip line and I am extremely wanting to learn to climb and top trees.and I watched all the videos on the site and it is something that I want to learn,I have been soaking up as much info as possible before I get into it,I have tried to climb and went fairley well but I don't know anything about the rope climbing or the knots used to do this.but after watching the videos it looks to me that this is something that I need to learn,are there any videos online that explains and shows you how to tie and use this system,because I know safety is first and formost,and I would like to get started right not wrong.

Can't go wrong getting this book, it will shed light on different techniques and knots. LOW AND SLOW are words to live by when starting out. I always double-tied (2 tie-in points)when first getting started, makes taking a break much easier.
 
topping hurts

try 2 avoid topping trees
 
I am also new ???

(WLL) said:
try 2 avoid topping trees
I am also new but I have almost ten years of nursery an landscape pruning . I have study tree biology. It is kind funny but I am probably one of worst climbers around town but my work looks the best .It is amazing that i still have to talk people out of topping . I would don t really know except removal but when you top you make 3 things 1 is more dangerous job 2 is uglier 3 is a more dangerous tree in the future .Another thing leave them spikes at the bottom of your gear basket.
 
Buy a copy of the tree climbers companion read that then go down to your local park and Trunk Walk the trees down there... This is a very good technique to learn as it is one of the building blocks on how to climb trees.

Remember, Keep the spikes for the removals only STRICT, don't use them on prunes. Topping tree's is a NO NO aswell so try to aboid that.

Low n Slow is what you need to do, remember safety first - Good Technique and Speed will shortly follow.
 
JohN Dee said:
Remember, Keep the spikes for the removals only STRICT, don't use them on prunes. Topping tree's is a NO NO aswell so try to aboid that.
Who died and made you God? T.J. -climbing with spurs is the safest way, no doubt, spurs and a steelcore. Firmly attached to the tree at all times, not tied into something you can't see if its good or not, planted, not slipping and cutting yourself. Certianly tell people that is not good to top trees but if thats what they really want-do it. Learn the bowline, tautline and figure 8, its all you need to get started, save the fancy pants stuff for later, good luck to you.
 
Does Sherrill the site sponsor sell videos?

I know that Tree Tools near Portland, Oregon had a set on their shelves. They ship too.
 
M.D. Vaden said:
Does Sherrill the site sponsor sell videos?

I know that Tree Tools near Portland, Oregon had a set on their shelves. They ship too.
tons of vendors have videos or you can buy them from the orgs. i gotta few of them whatcha have in mind md?
 
climbing with spurs the safest ???

It might be if it is the most comfortable for you but I don t think it is th way you want to learn .I know spur climbing is not the safest me because I am not comfortable doing it .I guess if the customer want there trees topped you can do it but you will never see me doing this .
 
Magnum783 said:
Come out to NC I will show you what I know
Jared
HI Jared! I'm an hour away from you; write me sometime.

"climbing with spurs is the safest way, no doubt, spurs and a steelcore. Firmly attached to the tree at all times, not tied into something you can't see if its good or not, planted, not slipping and cutting yourself. Certianly tell people that is not good to top trees but if thats what they really want-do it. Learn the bowline, tautline and figure 8, its all you need to get started, save the fancy pants stuff for later, good luck to you."

Clearance, I agree with you that tautline hitch and bowline are all the knots that are needed, but please note that this poster is from Kentucky, not the BC bush. You've been banned from the homeowner forum for this kind of spiking-topping :sucks: --keep it up and you may be out of this place too.

Re how-to stuff, shop here:
https://secure.isa-arbor.com/store/
 
treeseer said:
"climbing with spurs is the safest way, no doubt, spurs and a steelcore. Firmly attached to the tree at all times, not tied into something you can't see if its good or not, planted, not slipping and cutting yourself. Certianly tell people that is not good to top trees but if thats what they really want-do it. Learn the bowline, tautline and figure 8, its all you need to get started, save the fancy pants stuff for later, good luck to you."

Clearance, I agree with you that tautline hitch and bowline are all the knots that are needed, but please note that this poster is from Kentucky, not the BC bush. You've been banned from the homeowner forum for this kind of spiking-topping :sucks: --keep it up and you may be out of this place too.
Am I wrong, is climbing with spurs not the safest way to climb? You gonna try and have me bannned?
 
treeseer said:
Clearance, I agree with you that tautline hitch and bowline are all the knots that are needed, but please note that this poster is from Kentucky, not the BC bush. You've been banned from the homeowner forum for this kind of spiking-topping :sucks: --keep it up and you may be out of this place too.
Whoa, I climb on spikes every day and every tree I climb gets topped-you gonna throw me out of here too?


clearance said:
Am I wrong, is climbing with spurs not the safest way to climb?
I happen to agree with you but I think that's because we've both been taught how to climb around power. Guys who've never had to work around the high lines look at climbing a bit differently-they seem to be more focused on keeping the tree safe then keeping the climber safe.

But each to their own-at the end of every day you both get the job done, right?
 
clearance said:
Am I wrong, is climbing with spurs not the safest way to climb? You gonna try and have me bannned?
NO spurs are not safer than being tied in and ascending. I'll start a poll in ctcac on that and we'll let others opine. 2. I reported the post; not my call whether you join the boys in the banned. I think your viewpoint is valuable but you get hung up on pushing the standards of your (rural) way into other arboriculture and that does not meet the purpose of Arb 101 imnsvho.
 
treeseer said:
NO spurs are not safer than being tied in and ascending. I'll start a poll in ctcac on that and we'll let others opine. 2. I reported the post; not my call whether you join the boys in the banned. I think your viewpoint is valuable but you get hung up on pushing the standards of your (rural) way into other arboriculture and that does not meet the purpose of Arb 101 imnsvho.

what is this BS ? is this what arboristsite is all about ?
 

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