chain weight

[Art Martin]

Racing chain modification.
I just finished a racing chain for Dennis. It has 84 drive links, 42 teeth, full compliment Carlton, chisel tooth, .058" gauge, 3/8" pitch. The interesting thing is that I weighed the chain on a very sensitive scale before I started modifying it and then again after I finished. The amount of metal that I removed during the whole process was equivalent to the weight of 20 individual teeth. This is one of the reasons why they cut so fast. It took two weeks of late hour grinding to complete the job.
Art Martin

 

[WOLF_RIVER_MIKE]

Awsome Art, I'm sure it's worth every penny. I wonder what precentage of overall reduction in chain weight was that?

 

[Dennis]

Man am I ever looking forward to racing that chain....sounds like my first race will be May 11 in Prince George...going to run my stock appearing 394...18" white spruce..3 cuts....cold start...gonna have to do lots of practicing...

Art has also ensured me that its faster than the one he made for John Lambert....just cause John is a creep

 

[WOLF_RIVER_MIKE]

Good Luck Dennis, Cold start, must be three cuts? Anyway, give 'em hell.

 

[WOLF_RIVER_MIKE]

sorry about not reading you post Dennis. 3 cuts are obvious, unless from a drop start? Now we have a real competition?

 

[eyolf]

I'm hanging around this place too dang much...I'm starting to think about raacing chain saws, but have questions:

1) when one you guys prepare a racing chain, you file the cutters way back. From a working perspective, this would be stealing working life away, but for racing that smaller cutter is supposed to clear chips a bit better, and take a hair less kerf...right?

2) is there a "service life" to a racing chain? Suppose I beg, plead, and steal to get one; race with it for a while, and decide it's starting to lose it's edge. Can I send it back to the filer for a touch-up, or do I buy another?

3) suppose I buy one, and spend 20 years learning to reproduce it, and succeed...will John Lambert and his Yukon Studebaker death squad be coming a- huntin' the woods of Minnesota?

 

[Art Martin]

WOLF_RIVER_MIKE and eyole,
To answer some of the questions. The percentage of weight reduction was about 16%. The farther back the tooth is cut narrows the kerf, thus reducing the volume of wood fiber that must be removed to sever the cut, so the effort of horsepower in the engine can maintain the high rpm's throughout the cut, thus going down faster. The racing chain can be re-sharpened many times and lasts for many racing seasons. This proceedure takes only 30 minutes to an hour depending on the length of the chain. The chain also gets faster as it is filed back to the point where is just little "fish-hooks" left. Yes twenty years is a good start to reproduce the racing chain, and you will get it right in about 40 years.
Art Martin

 

[ccicora]

Racing chain

Art,
What would I be looking at to have you build a 3/8's racing chain for my 3120? Kenn Dunn build the saw for me and like you have said " it takes years to learn to build racing chain". I need 65 drive links and the chain has 73 punched on the drive links. Please give me a call at 607 796-6635.

Thanks,
Chris Cicora

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi Art, I was meaning to send you back the chains you made for me for a touch up, but El Creepo Dennis insisted that I leave them in Clearwater while I went to the Yukon so he could copy them first and send them down to you while I was away. Fat chance, they were still in the original box when I got back to Clearwater. I hope you made that chain for Greffard out of carbide chain, cause the wood he has there is the pits. I haven't seen that many knots since I learned to tie my boot laces.
Anyway, I will send the chain back down this coming week.
Please send Dennis's chain to me first Art so I can try it out.
John

 

[Dennis]

Art..when you get those chains from the creep Lambert..dont be alarmed...those arent the chains you made for him ...i duplicated(as best I could) them and put them in the same towels and the original box...so now I will have 3 of your racing chains for the price of one..how sweet is that??? the chains he is sending you arent dull....I just cant file...lol...but they look interesting...but dont tell him!!

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi Art, we gotta get that weasily Greffard, I checked the box that I though had your racing chains in it and all that was there was a rocked out harvester chain. As though it wasnt bad enough that he was a liability when I tried to do business with him after he ripped all my Walkers saws apart while I was gone just to get the specs. and didnt reasemble them. Now I just have 9 saws in 9 boxes.
Im going back to Walkers saws. Greffard is a full fledged creep and deadbeat.
John

 

[Art Martin]

John...check out those chains before you send them to me for sharpening. Dennis might have put two loops of barbed wire into those boxes thinking you wouldn't know the difference.
Art Martin

 

[Dennis]

John..lmao...I figured you needed something to do when you got home...and I knew you wouldnt know the difference in your chain, as you dont know how to file anyway...man you are going to get beat hard at the revival..lol..I have your room set up in the basement...

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi Art, I will remember that, Dennis G loves to make love to granite with a good racing chain, and why wouldn't he, after all, he is the truffle hound.
Art, it pleases me that you and Dennis C are getting along, I told him you are a decent sort like like him and I, but he keeps asking me to send him one of your chains cause he wants to copy it. I just said, go on over and see him and all his stuff, so Ken is going to put him in a headlock and bring him over Art if that's ok.
Have Marita put on the coffee.
John

 

[Dennis Cahoon]

Hey Gypo, You're getting as bad as the King of Spin. You told me you wanted me to refile those pieces of barbwire you got from him, because they were slower than slow. After seeing Ed's chain cut, you just didn't have the heart to tell art. Come on Lambert, tell the site the truth and art too.
The only reason I would want them is to dig that trench for the new water line to my barn, or cut tree roots when digging post holes for my new fence. Hell, just send them to rjs he needs something new in his nest! Plus, the way I hear it, I'd have to put Ken in a headlock to drag him down there.
Dennis

 

[shoot501]

Gypo hurry on over to ebay, they have a race chain and bar for a big Husky up for auction. Might be one Dennis swiped from you?