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john taliaferro
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Whats your finger worth ?
TraditionalTool
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Well, if you need to cut hot dogs they're no good! 
There has been a big flurry to get these saws, but as noted they are not cheap. Cabinet saw is about $3k.
There has been a big flurry to get these saws, but as noted they are not cheap. Cabinet saw is about $3k.
irishcountry
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That is pretty dang amazing !!!
3 things about this: 1) once it activates, the blade is wasted, which for me means replacing a $100 blade; 2) once it activates, theres parts that cost $$$ to replace; 3) when i am using my tablesaw, i cut at a faster rate than is demonstrated and dont use hots dogs for push sticks, so i would like to see someone in an actual working environment test it. i find that the most dangerous power tool in my shop is me when i am not practicing safe operation and not giving the tools the respect they deserve.
I agree with tomsteve mostly. I do work faster than that (at times depending on what I'm cutting). I think it would still stop fast enough that you don't cut all the way through your finger. Though you have to replace parts (bladestop and blade), it's most definitely cheaper than your finger.
I would like to see the damage done with a faster feed rate... just to know.
On a tablesaw, rarely do I get my fingers anywhere near the blade. I use all manner of jigs and sleds to insure that the risk to my fingers is at a minimum.
I would like to see the damage done with a faster feed rate... just to know.
On a tablesaw, rarely do I get my fingers anywhere near the blade. I use all manner of jigs and sleds to insure that the risk to my fingers is at a minimum.
yup. ya got any jigs or fixtures that use hotdogs???
heres a gooder video on it
SawStop Finger Demonstration - move over hot dog! - YouTube
still not a normal shop setting, but shows the damage done to the saw itself.
Okay, the fact that the inventor sticks his finger into the saw blade (even ever so gently) takes some serious confidence in what it can do.
So, at about 60 for the stopping block and about 60 for a new blade, I'd be out about $120. The cost to reattach a digit is roughly $25K to about $150K. While at full speed I may get a finger cut near or to the bone with the Sawstop, I'd probably cut right through it without.
I still say that I think it's better for me to not get myself into that position to start.
I have seen and played with hot dogs on a sawstop saw at a local woodworkers gathring and it certainly is an impressive bit of technology.
After a demonstration the demonstrator allowed anyone to try it out for themselves and we used up ~25 blades and stopping mechanisms during the session.
The blades we were using were $5 chicom specials but it still would not have been a cheap demonstration so now you know why it is so expensve
Sawstop has produced much robust debate on woodworking forums between suppliers and prospective users and whether the device could lead to sloppy practices in the use of a table saw fitted with this device.
There is also now an alternative mechanisms out there that stops the blade when any body part gets within 1" of the moving blade and does not wreck the blade or stopping mechanism. It requires the use of blade guard with sensors on it so I think it can be more easily retrofitted to some existing saws. It's not quite as fast stopping as sawstop but it does not need to be as body parts have a 1" margin within which to move while the blade is slowing. If I was going to fit a safety device I would consider one of these over the sawstop.
After a demonstration the demonstrator allowed anyone to try it out for themselves and we used up ~25 blades and stopping mechanisms during the session.
The blades we were using were $5 chicom specials but it still would not have been a cheap demonstration so now you know why it is so expensve
Sawstop has produced much robust debate on woodworking forums between suppliers and prospective users and whether the device could lead to sloppy practices in the use of a table saw fitted with this device.
There is also now an alternative mechanisms out there that stops the blade when any body part gets within 1" of the moving blade and does not wreck the blade or stopping mechanism. It requires the use of blade guard with sensors on it so I think it can be more easily retrofitted to some existing saws. It's not quite as fast stopping as sawstop but it does not need to be as body parts have a 1" margin within which to move while the blade is slowing. If I was going to fit a safety device I would consider one of these over the sawstop.
I would think slowing the blade down could be dangerous in itself. When a blade slows, it is more like to grab and fire the piece out.
I think the best solution is just to be careful with what you are doing and, if you must have one of these safety saws, act like you don't have it. Just because I had one of these would definitely not bring down my carefulness around my tablesaw. I like my fingers... and hand :msp_biggrin:
I think the best solution is just to be careful with what you are doing and, if you must have one of these safety saws, act like you don't have it. Just because I had one of these would definitely not bring down my carefulness around my tablesaw. I like my fingers... and hand :msp_biggrin:
smokinj
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My dad has one. He almost cut hes thumb off whit his older one. However it is a little to sensitive (without skin contact) and once it stops it takes awhile to get up and running. The saw its self is an awesome saw no question about it....
SDB777
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Been tore up more using a freakin' screwdriver then a tablesaw.....it's all a matter of respect!
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smokinj
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50+ years on a saw making a living....Chances are!
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