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Yesterday i recieved a call for an emergency removal.

I went to the residence to find a dead pine on top of a car and the corner of the home. This tree was the victim of pine beetles along with a dozen or more others on a vacant lot next door to the home.

So, after removal of the pine the owner said he would pay me to push over the dead pines that were within striking distance of his home on the adjacent lot. They were all so rotted my track loader pushed them all over with ease and i pushed it all up into a big pile.

My worry is that the owner of the vacant lot was not notifies of my machine entering his/her property and pushing over the trees. Nothing worth while was damaged by the falling dead trees. I made sure of that much.
 
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Yesterday i recieved a call for an emergency removal.

I went to the residence to find a dead pine on top of a car and the corner of the home. This tree was the victime of pinbeetles along with a dozen or more others on a vacant lot next door to the home.

So, afetr removal of the pine the owner said he would pay me to push over the dead pine that were within striking distance of his home on the adjacent lot. They were all so rotted my track loader pushed them all over with ease and i pushed it all up into a big pile.

My worry is that the owner of the vacant lot was not notifies of my machine entering his/her property and pushing over the trees. nothin worth while was damaged by the falling dead trees. i made sure of that much.

Its something I would have passed up, if they were on the other property.

Very recently, I was asked to remove dead foliage / trees in what is sort of a riparian grassy area, that I question to be the cities, property, but the homeowner said was theirs to the center of the area. Its in a 40' wide strip, fenced between both properties.

So I didn't leave an estimate, not knowing whose land it was - city? homeowner? And - permit needed? Or within homowners disgression with no permit needed.

Actually, I rarely cross the property line to even clean up branches anymore. I'll try and reach over with the hook of my pole pruner.
 
Property line question???

This brings up a question I have about a large removal I have to do in two weeks. I have 3 trees to take out with a crane and pick over the house. The first tree I have to take out is a large Hack berry That is between both fences and literally divides the property . The tree hooks back towards my client's house and two huge runners are splitting at the base of the main fork. I have to remove this one first to be able to pick the other two. The HO has spent the last 3 weeks supposedly trying to get the other HO to help compensate for some of the cost. I didn't ask if he got the other guy to help out when he called tonight because I figured it was none of my business. Should I speak to the 2nd HO on this one before I start working? I mean the tree is an obvious hazard to my clients home. He already told me he was willing to incur all cost to get the tree out of there. I just don't want to leave myself open to anything by cutting a tree that is halfway on someone else's property.
 
With boundary line trees, I always have both HO's sign off on any removal I'm hired to do by either one of them. You can get hauled into court if the unsigned HO chooses to sue for whatever reason. Read some of the "arboriculture and the law" books out there. Play it safe. Get those signatures.
 
With boundary line trees, I always have both HO's sign off on any removal I'm hired to do by either one of them. You can get hauled into court if the unsigned HO chooses to sue for whatever reason. Read some of the "arboriculture and the law" books out there. Play it safe. Get those signatures.

Sunrise Guy..

Where can these books be purchased???...Definetly intrested in reading up on it
 
I agree get permission.
You also mentioned that the hackberry was on the property line. That might mean that it is equally owned by both homeowners. HO2 could come back and say he never wanted it taken down and you could be in court for that. Without really knowing HO2 might have already spoke to HO1 and told them explicitly that they don't want the tree removed.

My experience with homeowners might be a little different because I do mostly muni work, but they generally say whatever to get what they want... right or wrong.

Always best to CYA!!
 
I will require that the client provide me with written permission from the neighbor to cross lotlines. Not only does this give one some protection under the law, but quite often it will get you work on the second parties property.

One can even prime the pump by stating that you will give the second party a discount for the right to cross boundries
 

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