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First off I'm not in the tree business. I own a 5 acre lot with a lot of poplar, some spruce and willows. What I'm looking for is a decent chipper suitable for processing the waste after cutting firewood. I've been cutting about 10 cord a year for 12 years now and as you can imagine I have a lot of brush piles, burning is not an option. Suggestions?
 
The best and cheapest option is probably just to hire in a tree guy with a big chipper once a year. He'll take the mulch if you don't want it, or will do it a little cheaper if you'll keep it. An 18" chipper with a 240hp engine gets a lot of work done in an hour. You should be able to get it done for $300~$500. Might sound like a lot, but it gets done real quick. No chipper you can buy for a reasonable price is going to work any good, and they will cost you way more than that yearly in blades, parts, stress and depreciation anyhow. Just my opinion.

Shaun
 
The best and cheapest option is probably just to hire in a tree guy with a big chipper once a year. He'll take the mulch if you don't want it, or will do it a little cheaper if you'll keep it. An 18" chipper with a 240hp engine gets a lot of work done in an hour. You should be able to get it done for $300~$500. Might sound like a lot, but it gets done real quick. No chipper you can buy for a reasonable price is going to work any good, and they will cost you way more than that yearly in blades, parts, stress and depreciation anyhow. Just my opinion.

Shaun

Totally incorrect Shaun. I sell chippers to home owners all the time because it is cost effective. If one has a good chipper guy in the neighborhood who is cheap and fast then thats another matter but that generally isn't the case. Not only that but if you'r the guy in the neighborhood with the chipper then you have a valuable commodity to trade or even hire out. This is provided the homeowner is mechanically inclined and hard working.
To the o-p: You should be looking for a chuck and duck, 12" drum chipper with a 300 ci Ford engine, mid 90's. You can usually find one for $3000 to $7000 depending on condition and just who is selling it. I have one in my yard I would sell for $1500 but you would need fix a head gasket at least. When I have good ones that I have fully serviced, I sell them for around $6,000 and they are good machines that you won't need to do anything to for awhile.
 
I should ad this. If the brush has been on the ground longer then 1 year then you have a problem especially if you have already cut out all the usable fire wood.
What you are left with is a bunch of <2" diameter, rotting, bug eaten, mud incrusted, sticks and nothing short of a tub grinder will work well on that.
Best bet would be to chainsaw chip (splash) the stuff into piles and leave it in a corner of your property to root. It will turn into soil in a few years.
 
I have a chipper that runs off my tractors PTO that I like pretty well for my 20 acres. Takes some time but does the job and provides some nice mulch for my yard trees.
 
I should ad this. If the brush has been on the ground longer then 1 year then you have a problem especially if you have already cut out all the usable fire wood.
What you are left with is a bunch of <2" diameter, rotting, bug eaten, mud incrusted, sticks and nothing short of a tub grinder will work well on that.
Best bet would be to chainsaw chip (splash) the stuff into piles and leave it in a corner of your property to root. It will turn into soil in a few years.

I'm glad you added this... I would LOOOOOVE to watch this guy chip year old scattered brush with a chuck and duck style chipper.

I would recommend renting a chipper, no smaller than 12", self feed from a rental yard. You can probably get one for a weekend for between 300-400. Probably all week for $900 or so. I would discourage from buying a machine for occasional use unless you find an awesome deal.
 
Brush piles are 1 thing but the rest of the crap left over from firewood processing like the bark and little chunks etc aren't going to go through a chipper very well at all. If the branches don't fall apart when you pick them up you'll at least get rid of the biggest stuff.
 
View attachment 307294 Bearcat 5" chipper shredder works well for me ( they have straight chippers also) 20 hp, it really can do a 5" dia branch ( I have run 4" buck thorn green and dry through it) List is around 8G's. I got used for a little less than 1/2 list. As with any smaller chipper, chipping port size requires nicking or compressing branches to fit through port. Shredder portion rated at 3/4" does that well also. It is not a self feed but will suck a big branch in by itself to the point where it could stall from a over load. This unit is extremely easy to clear a jam ( which I have yet to do) 1 bolt and the top half of the chipper/ flail section opens up ( also for knife/ flail replacement). Very well thought out unit, not a light weight at a little over 1000 pounds, road towable. Reason I bought my own is rentals never available when I needed them. It was a big chunk of change but I am happy with it.
 
Totally incorrect Shaun. I sell chippers to home owners all the time because it is cost effective. If one has a good chipper guy in the neighborhood who is cheap and fast then thats another matter but that generally isn't the case. Not only that but if you'r the guy in the neighborhood with the chipper then you have a valuable commodity to trade or even hire out. This is provided the homeowner is mechanically inclined and hard working.
To the o-p: You should be looking for a chuck and duck, 12" drum chipper with a 300 ci Ford engine, mid 90's. You can usually find one for $3000 to $7000 depending on condition and just who is selling it. I have one in my yard I would sell for $1500 but you would need fix a head gasket at least. When I have good ones that I have fully serviced, I sell them for around $6,000 and they are good machines that you won't need to do anything to for awhile.

I guess we've got completely different opinions there mate. If I had to chip up the brush generated for my firewood each year I'd have a hard time justifying $3,000 to $7,000 plus fuel, blades, maintenance and whatever gets damaged. I also can't think of any machine I'd be less inclined to let a home owner run than a chuck n duck. Hiring it out to your neighbours is utter lunacy. Even if they weren't illegal here in australia, I wouldn't let any of my crew run one. With no guards, no control of the intake and no second chance, one slip up = a quick and messy death. Some guys say they're not all that dangerous to run, but even guys who use them every day will admit that material needs to be cut carefully to length, fed in a certain way, and that there really are no second chances. Everyone who runs one will admit to close calls, injuries, getting whipped and beaten by the machine, and having skin/chunks of flesh ripped off them in an effort to avoid being killed.

I also think renting a machine isn't the great deal it seems. $400 for a weekend sounds alright, but then you've gotta pick it up, drop it off, fuel it, and run and feed it yourself which is going to be a weekends work alone (and dangerous to chip alone also!) or you're going to have to get a buddy or two to help which equals beer. You're then left with the prospect of getting rid of the mulch yourself too, if you don't want to keep it. For much the same money you can take the weekend off, or go work somewhere... and have someone drive out and chip it for you and take the mulch away. Or keep it if you want to keep it.

Just my opinion. I've got a 250xp, and I still don't like to let my crew run it without me there. It's not that they're careless, but chipper accidents are just so common. My buddy had one of his workers go into a BC1000XL last year, lost both legs up to the knee. He'll be in court over that for a long time. Another mate had 2 workers off work for months with broken ribs, broken fingers, concussions and rope burn, another mate had his finger crushed, broken and ripped open by a log slamming down, another worker from another company fractured shin after a log chunk spat back out at him, another mate with a broken finger etc etc... These are careful guys with years of industry experience running modern machines with all the safety features, wearing full PPE. I've never had a chipper accident on my crew, and I hope I never do.

Chuck n duck chippers - illegal in many countries for a reason

[video=youtube;dQoL4F2A3gc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQoL4F2A3gc[/video]
 
Chuck n duck chippers - illegal in many countries for a reason

[video=youtube;dQoL4F2A3gc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQoL4F2A3gc[/video]

What's the reason? Don't think I've ever heard of any serious injuries from chuck and ducks. But there are tons and tons of deaths and serious injuries with the self feeders. If I didn't need the capacity of my Bandit, I'd probabaly go back to a chuck and duck.
 
Well Shaun I think you said it all. All chipper are dangerous but its mostly operator error. If guys are getting chipped then they are NOT careful guys. You don't even trust your guys enough to let them chip alone so ya, a chucknduck would not be a good fit for you. Again, I ran them for 20 years without one accident. These machines are so aggressive that they are scary and fear is good when chipping. Fear = respect in tree work. And again, the owner needs to be capable and smart with a strong mechanical and self preservation sense. But nothing will chip a ton of brush faster for so little money. Some will do it safer but at twice the cost and no machine is idiot proof. That's why if the homeowner is going to hire day labors to run the thing I recommend a hydraulic machine. In this case it sounds like he can handle it.
 
Even if they weren't illegal here in australia, I wouldn't let any of my crew run one. With no guards, no control of the intake and no second chance, one slip up = a quick and messy death. Some guys say they're not all that dangerous to run, but even guys who use them every day will admit that material needs to be cut carefully to length, fed in a certain way, and that there really are no second chances. Everyone who runs one will admit to close calls, injuries, getting whipped and beaten by the machine, and having skin/chunks of flesh ripped off them in an effort to avoid being killed.

[video=youtube;dQoL4F2A3gc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQoL4F2A3gc[/video]

Have you ever run a chuck and duck? BTW the guy in that video doesn't look very comfortable near that machine at all:msp_w00t: He even has a chip truck, wonder what kind of climber he is?

I had a couple for a while and they are fast when sharp. I never really worried about getting pulled into one, they will grab wood very quickly but something soft like an arm or rotten branch you could pull right back out. Sure they'll whip the crap out of you if you're not careful but so will a self feeder if you're not paying attention. You do have to cut the branches so they don't have alot of y's and try to have a straight shot so they don't stop feeding and run through lickety split! Didn't often cut length down either unless they were really long, maybe over 15-20 feet it would bog the machine down and it will keep trying to feed until it died sometimes.
 
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