Does size really matter?

[hardpan]

Apparently not always. I stumbled across this instructional video of a Swedish logger cutting rather small logs with an even smaller saw, the famous 346XP and what appears to be a 14" bar. I don't know enough to critique this method so I will default to say it is "interesting". What do you think? For instance, how about a tree twice that size and a saw that could muscle a 20" bar etc?
Forestry in Sweden 2 - YouTube

 

[paccity]

i just don't know what to say.

 

[2dogs]

Sloppy!

 

[Samlock]

The guy is a farmer, not a logger, managing his own land. That is, removing the sheltering aspens from over a young spruce stand.

The vid has been around here before. I still don't know what he is doing and why. A Gyro Gearloose type of a guy, I think, likes to do things his own way.

Scandinavians tend to choose short bars. I've noticed that Americans like to pick the longest bar an each saw might possibly handle. On this side of the pond people rather sell it short. I believe the truth is somewhere in between. I myself have a 15'' bar mounted on my 346. Quite optimal for the small timber I use it for.

 

[paccity]

i don't mind trying some thing diff when i have the time to do it. mostly out of curiosity. but i thought the guy was doing a carving of some sort. but even with the shorter bar on that tree it could have been done with a lot less dinkin around.

 

[saxono3]

Sloppy stump, took twice as long as it had to. Open face notch, bore in behind the hinge, cut to the back when your bar pops out the other side put a wedge in. Release the back and give the wedge a whack and she's gone. For large trees when the bar reaches the back go around and finish your cut to the hinge. That way your never cutting the same wood twice, under or over cutting I mean. I use a 20 in. bar for pretty much every thing but the very biggest trees I encounter. The tree he was cutting was small.

 

[slowp]

Scandinavians tend to choose short bars. I've noticed that Americans like to pick the longest bar an each saw might possibly handle. On this side of the pond people rather sell it short. I believe the truth is somewhere in between. I myself have a 15'' bar mounted on my 346. Quite optimal for the small timber I use it for.

In our country there is a difference. If you work on flat ground, you can work from either side of the tree.
In our part of the woods, the machines are doing the cutting on the flat ground or flattish ground. Fallers get the steep ground, where it isn't always possible to work from more than one side--easily or safely. A longish bar is a safety and efficiency thing.

 

[ft. churchill]

Alot of time wasted and fooling around when three simple cuts would have fallen that tree. Also look at the kickback danger he exposed himself to as well as prolonging his time near the base of a pratially cut tree. More chances of widowmaker falling. Also noted how his "fancy pants" cut did not control the tree well on the way down and it twisted and kicked pretty good.

 

[rwoods]

As noted by others - way too much time at the stump of a partially cut tree - at least for this firewood hack. Also those two piece sloping face cuts that leave a chin can spell trouble - don't embarass me by asking me how I know. :msp_smile: Ron

 

[madhatte]

I wonder what's up with all that back-barring and getting punched in the junk by the saw when that 346 had a perfectly usable dawg on it? Seems like an awful lot of work to me. Pretty sure I said the same thing the last time this video made the rounds. Also: what's up with not looking up? Also also: what a jack-strawed mess at the end!

Ain't sayin' what they're doing doesn't work (for whatever it is their management goals are), just sayin' that we sure don't do things like that around here.

 

[rwoods]

... Also also: what a jack-strawed mess at the end!

Ain't sayin' what they're doing doesn't work (for whatever it is their management goals are), just sayin' that we sure don't do things like that around here.

Didn't you play pick up sticks as a kid? :msp_smile: Ron

 

[twochains]

What did I just watch? Judging by the criss-cross swamp job at the end...why was he even carrying wedges? What kind of goof ball notches were those? Wonder who played "catcher" and who was the "pitcher" in that little duo???

 

[H 2 H]

HMMMMM

Way to small of bar

Kinda reminds me of guy using a 60 cc saw with 15" b/c


JMO

 

[northmanlogging]

These videos always make me feel a little better, I'm big, gimpy, fat, and slow, but I make it look easier than that...(or so I think... need to watch more tree fall fails...)

 

[hardpan]

Great replies. Imagine a pro 60cc saw with 20" bar and a 36" tree with a little back lean. Could it be done reliably and safely? I don't think I would be comfortable with it but the guy in the video might fly through it. The off-center holding wood does have some appeal to me because it allows the wedge to be in the back cut center but I may be all wet.

 

[RandyMac]

Great replies. Imagine a pro 60cc saw with 20" bar and a 36" tree with a little back lean. Could it be done reliably and safely? I don't think I would be comfortable with it but the guy in the video might fly through it. The off-center holding wood does have some appeal to me because it allows the wedge to be in the back cut center but I may be all wet.

Yeah, you are all wet. Where do all these ####ing wieners came from, Jesus mother####ing Christ!

 

[northmanlogging]

I could do it in three cuts... as long as it wasn't back leaning real hard, and as long as I manage to pull off a decent face without having to dress it up to much... and still have the wedges be more or less centered

No monkeying around with boring and what not

Not bragging just saying...

 

[RandyMac]

I could do it in three cuts... as long as it wasn't back leaning real hard, and as long as I manage to pull off a decent face without having to dress it up to much... and still have the wedges be more or less centered

No monkeying around with boring and what not

Not bragging just saying...

Rip the ####er up by the roots, you could die of old age cutting like that farmer.

 

[Gologit]

Great replies. Imagine a pro 60cc saw with 20" bar and a 36" tree with a little back lean. Could it be done reliably and safely? I don't think I would be comfortable with it but the guy in the video might fly through it. The off-center holding wood does have some appeal to me because it allows the wedge to be in the back cut center but I may be all wet.

Yup, you're all wet. Good of you to realize it before you copy the idiot in the video.

He does a lot of unnecessary cutting, snipping away at that tree like he was pruning a rose bush. That tree didn't get cut down...it fell over in shame and embarrassment.

The guy is unskilled and dangerous. He shouldn't be a role model for someone wanting to learn falling.

 

[RandyMac]

Yup, you're all wet. Good of you to realize it before you copy the idiot in the video.

He does a lot of unnecessary cutting, snipping away at that tree like he was pruning a rose bush. That tree didn't get cut down...it fell over in shame and embarrassment.

The guy is unskilled and dangerous. He shouldn't be a role model for someone wanting to learn falling.

Bob, you are my hero.