double tie in advice?

[ScottinAK]

The boss thinks a double tie in is not productive, but my safety comes first. We don't have weights, bags or an awesome launcher to quickly get a line in a crotch. My question, does it seem good enough to use a running bowline on a figure 8 and keep moving it up to my level as I ascend? If the figure 8 isn't a good choice, is there a budget friendly mechanical device? I looked at the zig zag but it's only for a double rope system, I'll be single line.

 

[ScottinAK]

My tree climbers companion is at the post office, I just haven't been off before 5 to get it.

 

[TheJollyLogger]

A locked off eight will work. I really like the petal RIG. I fought that fight in Alaska too. Stick to your guns. I timed myself on a spruce up there. Hour and a half total time in the tree, 6 minutes of which were spent adjusting my lifeline. 20 minutes were spent twiddling my thumbs waiting on groundies to clear out the base.

 

[ScottinAK]

Thanks, I think the Rig would be quicker and safer than the 8. I'll give it a shot.

 

[acer-kid]

The boss thinks a double tie in is not productive, but my safety comes first. We don't have weights, bags or an awesome launcher to quickly get a line in a crotch. My question, does it seem good enough to use a running bowline on a figure 8 and keep moving it up to my level as I ascend? If the figure 8 isn't a good choice, is there a budget friendly mechanical device? I looked at the zig zag but it's only for a double rope system, I'll be single line.

Your boss is a dink. A locked figure eight will work, but I suggest backing it up, especially since you're new.

A choked bowline will also work well, as you can loosen it, and flip it at the same time as your flip line.

Leaving a long (6-8') tail on your bowline also allows you to repel down the lenght of the tail while blocking down, and can be retrieved once you've reached your next blocking position.

Good luck fighting the good fight!
Climb safe.
-j

 

[ScottinAK]

Thanks J

 

[RajElectric]

Climbline to bail out of tree and suitable anchor point to tether into, ANSI standards, no?

 

[TheJollyLogger]

Correct. 2 safeties when cutting, one of which shall be a path to the ground.

 

[ScottinAK]

Which my running bowline to device will be my path to ground. Thanks guys, I'll look into the ANSI as a reference for when he gets ****** that I'm lolly gagging.

 

[ATH]

Tell him you are just trying to keep his worker's comp rates reasonable.

And look for a boss who cares more about you than the 6 minutes it takes to have a safe system.

 

[ksvanbrunt]

An adjustable friction saver is also a fairly inexpensive route to go. Easy enough to stay tied in ddrt and just adjust it to slip it up as you work up your tree. Just as easy as adjusting your running bowling. Kind of a scrubby gesture for him to not understand safe working procedures. Good luck with it and stay safe. Cheers!

-Kevin-

 

[ropensaddle]

Don't let anyone put a cattle prod up your ass, its your life. I have worked for idiots before, one supervisor of a large utility company called a lanyard a chicken strap. I told him straight up; I will be a live chicken over a dead ******* any day of the week. I later found out he fell twice!

 

[ScottinAK]

Don't let anyone put a cattle prod up your ass, its your life. I have worked for idiots before, one supervisor of a large utility company called a lanyard a chicken strap. I told him straight up; I will be a live chicken over a dead ******* any day of the week. I later found out he fell twice!

I've met a few people that thinks safety makes a man a p****, idiots. When I was in the electrical union you would be booted off the job for being unsafe. Falling 50 feet will kill you as fast as 600v, dead is dead.

 

[ropensaddle]

I've met a few people that thinks safety makes a man a p****, idiots. When I was in the electrical union you would be booted off the job for being unsafe. Falling 50 feet will kill you as fast as 600v, dead is dead.

Its not the dying I fear, I fear my old tough ass would live and be paraplegic and for myself that would be worse than death!

 

[TheJollyLogger]

Scott, remind me, is your boss a climber? Present or past?

 

[beastmaster]

I like to use a gree gree on my cimbing and on the end of it i have a biner. I choak it around the trunk use the carabiner. that way i can quickly unhook and hook it. If im blocking a tree down, I will leave a 8.Ft or so tail.so.i can come don useing the gree gree,then pull the carabiner down to me.. Its problably faster then useing single tie in.

 

[RajElectric]

Can always suggest to the boss a call to a labour board for an on site visit..... :O

 

[TheJollyLogger]

It's Alaska, the last frontier. ..

 

[RajElectric]

Postman/doctor/ roads inspector/mayor/ labour board director? No one wearing those hats at once?

 

[ScottinAK]

Scott, remind me, is your boss a climber? Present or past?

He was and still is on few occasions.