DRT Better Understanding.

[minifly3]

I am in school learning arboriculture,but when we climb using the DRT, we always use a belayer, i was wondering how do you take up your own slack when there is no belayer?

 

[roelex14]

I am in school learning arboriculture,but when we climb using the DRT, we always use a belayer, i was wondering how do you take up your own slack when there is no belayer?

that would depend on what kind of technique you are using...

Are you using a hip-thrust with like a blake's hitch or an eye-to-eye splice with a prusik like hitch?

My guess is you are using a prusik or vt (or similar) with a tending pulley below... With this if you are climbing your line above the hitch, climb about 3-5 pulls, hold on with one hand above the hitch (good grip gloves are key) and pull the slack through from below the pulley till the pulley meets the hitch. kinda hard to explain... thats just a basic way to do it. there are many

 

[tree md]

Climbing a doubled rope with a friction hitch is referred to as a self belay. As has been mentioned modern climbers use some sort of slack tending device like a pulley.

 

[minifly3]

Thats what i figured, When you pull up the pulley advances your knot and thats all you need to do... correct?? belaying at school is just more for our safety?

 

[Tree Pig]

[video=youtube;m1RSzKkBOWc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1RSzKkBOWc&feature=related[/video]

 

[tree md]

Thats what i figured, When you pull up the pulley advances your knot and thats all you need to do... correct?? belaying at school is just more for our safety?

Yes, pulling on the tail of your line "tailing" advances the pulley into the knot, in turn advancing your whole system.

 

[Youngbuck20]

We are doing the exact same way. It sucks.

 

[roelex14]

Belaying is supposed to make it easier and faster for the climber to ascend.

With a belayer, the climber doesn't have to stop to tend the hitch and remove slack. Instead the one belaying pulls the slack through the pulley (depending on system) which advances the knot, instead of the climber having to do it manually.

 

[Youngbuck20]

Which is nice, until your groundie has your coin purse around your face From yankin your climbing line so tight. Asking for some slack means your getting a good 4 feet. So either uncomfortable as hell or enough slack to be afraid for your life. Ya, I need a new groundie.

 

[VA-Sawyer]

"Which is nice, until your groundie has your coin purse around your face From yankin your climbing line so tight."

Can you please explain? The way I'm set up, the groundie could pull as hard as he wants and it won't be a problem with how or where it pulls on me or the harness. The only problem I can see is if the groundie is heavy enough and strong enough to actually advance me up the line, ( dang unlikely ) he could pull me into an overhead hazard.
Rick

 

[Iustinian]

lol "belay on" -- "belay off"

the only times we do belayed climbing are (1) secured footlocking with a dorsal attachment to a different TIP (2) or when we are practically running up the trunk of a removal

your ground guy needs to learn the difference between a "hard" and a "soft" belay....

3 years ago at a local climbing competition one of the officials on the speed climb asked Bo Bod####er, "how would you like your belay?" Bo Bod####er: "wine me and dine me, and then belay me" lmao

 

[Youngbuck20]

"Which is nice, until your groundie has your coin purse around your face From yankin your climbing line so tight.

The majority of the time while I'm tryin to stand on a branch I've got half or no weight on it cause im still danglin by the boys. Ask for slack and you better be ready. Just careless groundies I think. Someone that took it more seriously would be able to comprehend what's goin on up there.

 

[Saw Dust Smoken]

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