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I decided to clean out a closet instead of going woodcutting in the rain. I found a few pages of a journal. Here's my first days on the thinning crew. I won't name names. I think I was 23 at the time? The FS saw training was here's a saw, here's how you start it, don't get hurt, cut at least an acre a day or you'll get laid off. Luckily, back in the Discount School of Forestry, I had paid attention to the chainsaw lecture. Here goes...

We, (crew names) are working up on the South Summit. The first week was hellish. I was sure I had pulled a muscle in my back. I had to walk all hunched over. It took a while also to make the trees fall where I wanted. _____amuses himself by setting pitchtops on fire on down trees. He also lights the moss on standing trees which causes it to catch on fire and climb the tree bole and go out as soon as the moss runs out. Today I went through two chainsaws. Both worked a little, then quit. At least I can do more than_____ who is in charge of the project.

March 25: Today was some day. Could a day go worse? Left pack with lunch and book at ranger station. Spent the morning changing chains from one saw to another and then back again. In the afternoon the saw got plugged up with a stick and I had to take off the guard to remove the stick. This saw had a habit of dying and not starting till it had cooled off. The day was cloudy and yucky.

March 29: One of ____'s fires burned about a quarter acre of slash, leaving the live trees OK. It was a pitch top he started (on fire) and then I dropped quite a few trees on it because there was nowhere else to put them.

April 7: What can I do to get even? The guys were giving me an exceptionally hard time today. _____ apologized later but ____ keeps pushing. I almost blew up. Dropped a tree-it hung up in another. I worked around it--forgot about it, and wham! right on the head. What would we do without hardhats?


That's the end of the sawing part. Some explanation is needed. I was the first "girl" able to last on that crew. I was the last person brought on, so had least seniority, and had to run the saws that nobody else wanted to run. I was dumb. I went through several saws till I found an old boat anchor that was reliable if I left the chain loose. The chain would come off a couple times each day but the saw would run and cut. The senior crew members had the newer Macs with more plastic. They also took the chainbrakes off and the guards...we were running bowbars. We got in trouble for packing our gas and oil in anti-freeze jugs and after that had to pack it in heavy metal cans. It was an adventure and I really liked dumping trees on the ground after I figured out how it was done--I think. :D But within a couple of years, that work was contracted out, so no more.
 
Oh that brings back not to distant memories of my thinning days. I was on a crew for 14 years with 10 of those as a foreman. I had 3 women on my crew over those yrs and the last one that was on the crew was fresh out of college and drove up to the outback station we worked out of with a bumper sticker that said #### with a picture a star. Well we had to have a chat about her being the only female for 45 miles around and living in a all male barracks on the first day. All went well when it was all said and done. If those trees could talk though some of the parties that were had. :msp_smile:
 
I decided to clean out a closet instead of going woodcutting in the rain. I found a few pages of a journal. Here's my first days on the thinning crew. I won't name names. I think I was 23 at the time? The FS saw training was here's a saw, here's how you start it, don't get hurt, cut at least an acre a day or you'll get laid off. Luckily, back in the Discount School of Forestry, I had paid attention to the chainsaw lecture. Here goes...

We, (crew names) are working up on the South Summit. The first week was hellish. I was sure I had pulled a muscle in my back. I had to walk all hunched over. It took a while also to make the trees fall where I wanted. _____amuses himself by setting pitchtops on fire on down trees. He also lights the moss on standing trees which causes it to catch on fire and climb the tree bole and go out as soon as the moss runs out. Today I went through two chainsaws. Both worked a little, then quit. At least I can do more than_____ who is in charge of the project.

March 25: Today was some day. Could a day go worse? Left pack with lunch and book at ranger station. Spent the morning changing chains from one saw to another and then back again. In the afternoon the saw got plugged up with a stick and I had to take off the guard to remove the stick. This saw had a habit of dying and not starting till it had cooled off. The day was cloudy and yucky.

March 29: One of ____'s fires burned about a quarter acre of slash, leaving the live trees OK. It was a pitch top he started (on fire) and then I dropped quite a few trees on it because there was nowhere else to put them.

April 7: What can I do to get even? The guys were giving me an exceptionally hard time today. _____ apologized later but ____ keeps pushing. I almost blew up. Dropped a tree-it hung up in another. I worked around it--forgot about it, and wham! right on the head. What would we do without hardhats?


That's the end of the sawing part. Some explanation is needed. I was the first "girl" able to last on that crew. I was the last person brought on, so had least seniority, and had to run the saws that nobody else wanted to run. I was dumb. I went through several saws till I found an old boat anchor that was reliable if I left the chain loose. The chain would come off a couple times each day but the saw would run and cut. The senior crew members had the newer Macs with more plastic. They also took the chainbrakes off and the guards...we were running bowbars. We got in trouble for packing our gas and oil in anti-freeze jugs and after that had to pack it in heavy metal cans. It was an adventure and I really liked dumping trees on the ground after I figured out how it was done--I think. :D But within a couple of years, that work was contracted out, so no more.



April 7: What can I do to get even? The guys were giving me an exceptionally hard time today. _____ apologized later but ____ keeps pushing. I almost blew up. Dropped a tree-it hung up in another. I worked around it--forgot about it, and wham! right on the head. What would we do without hardhats?

Reminds me of my dads partner in the late sixties. On Friday nite he hung up a small silver fir. He just figured he'd get it on Monday. He did. He forgot about it and cut the tree that it was hung up in. It came down and paralyzed him from the bottom of the rib cage on down. Spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair. Never leave a job unfinished in this business. Good stories, Patty.
 
Thanks...I do remember being in a patch of Lodgepole. We were supposed to kill it unless it was the only thing around. It was big enough to get hurt in. I stepped back to get out of the way and couldn't. There was a tree directly behind. The falling tree knocked the saw out of my hands. Another learning moment brought about by stupidity. Lodgepole is fun though.
 
It doesn't take much of a tree to get slapped silly. Lodgepole is nice as it's usually so clean on the ground. Always need an good escape route to get away from things happening around the stump. Seventy-five percent of the accidents that happen to fallers happen within 8 feet of the stump. Hang around the stump when trees go it's pretty good odds a person will get thumped sometime sooner or later.
How come you're not out cutting that hemlock?
 
ya that lodgepole is fun to mow threw , but it can lul you in to a false sence of security, back in 83 or84 , fuzzy days. we were taking a bunch of bug kill on little walker mt by chemalt or , had a guy about a mile's from us got killed from a snagg that got him. was alive long enough to shut his saw off and sit down. was an eye opener for me. only death i saw in the woods.
 
It doesn't take much of a tree to get slapped silly. Lodgepole is nice as it's usually so clean on the ground. Always need an good escape route to get away from things happening around the stump. Seventy-five percent of the accidents that happen to fallers happen within 8 feet of the stump. Hang around the stump when trees go it's pretty good odds a person will get thumped sometime sooner or later.
How come you're not out cutting that hemlock?

Cuz I can. :msp_smile: The road to it is muddy. Not to worry, I am dashing out during the sucker holes and splitting the last load up. In fact I should be out there now.
 
ya that lodgepole is fun to mow threw , but it can lul you in to a false sence of security, back in 83 or84 , fuzzy days. we were taking a bunch of bug kill on little walker mt by chemalt or , had a guy about a mile's from us got killed from a snagg that got him. was alive long enough to shut his saw off and sit down. was an eye opener for me. only death i saw in the woods.
I think I've been around about 6 deaths in the woods in my career. You never get used to it for sure. Pretty much shakes up your days for some time afterward. Those flippin' snags anyway. I've had more friends hurt and killed by them. You've just got to get them out of the way before you go to work. I think back on all the close calls I've had with them and shudder. Going through what you went through with that guy sure makes you realize the preciousness of life, doesn't it?
 
One of the gyppo's I cut a couple jobs for lost a choker setter to a root wad. I always kinda wondered how that could happen. I then cut a blowdown show in the Quilcene watershed. It was on some very steep ground. It was a real eyeopener at how fast some of those root wads headed downhill after they were bucked.
 
One of the gyppo's I cut a couple jobs for lost a choker setter to a root wad. I always kinda wondered how that could happen. I then cut a blowdown show in the Quilcene watershed. It was on some very steep ground. It was a real eyeopener at how fast some of those root wads headed downhill after they were bucked.
Yeah, that's where those fireline guys really have to watch what they're doing. Cutting fireline and bucking the log off of a root wad and not knowing where people are for the smoke in the air. They'll take off down the hill like they've got a motor on em. They'll also dislodge rocks that'll roll down the hill, too.
I remember trying to break in my best friend. Steep ground and had a tree up the hill that fell over into a tree straight down the hill from it. When I fell the tree that had the hang up in it, it broke the root wad loose from the ground and threw a few rocks about 24" in diameter rolling down the hill. My partner just stood there watching them come right down on him. I hollered but he just stood there. All I could think of was how I was going to tell his wife and 3 kids how he died.
He just stood there and let the one roll right between his legs. I knew he was a goner but it went under him and right down the hill. Scared the crap out of me for sure. I was so scared I got mad at him and yelled at him. Typical timber faller emotions gone awry.
 
Yeah, that's where those fireline guys really have to watch what they're doing. Cutting fireline and bucking the log off of a root wad and not knowing where people are for the smoke in the air. They'll take off down the hill like they've got a motor on em. They'll also dislodge rocks that'll roll down the hill, too.
I remember trying to break in my best friend. Steep ground and had a tree up the hill that fell over into a tree straight down the hill from it. When I fell the tree that had the hang up in it, it broke the root wad loose from the ground and threw a few rocks about 24" in diameter rolling down the hill. My partner just stood there watching them come right down on him. I hollered but he just stood there. All I could think of was how I was going to tell his wife and 3 kids how he died.
He just stood there and let the one roll right between his legs. I knew he was a goner but it went under him and right down the hill. Scared the crap out of me for sure. I was so scared I got mad at him and yelled at him. Typical timber faller emotions gone awry.

it's kinda funny how pissed you can get , when you care.
 
it's kinda funny how pissed you can get , when you care.

Right on! Scares you so bad all you can do is get angry. That happened to be one of the times when I thought I had it all together and thought I had patience. It was a test of our friendship for sure. That was in 81 and we still spend hunting seasons together. I guess we must have gotten over it, huh?
 
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