First huge goverment contract

[dave066]

I was notified today that I sign a contract in the morning for a twelve tree removal, all ruled hazard. I've been climbing and cutting for twenty odd years, but we started this company three years ago, doing good, but getting very big jobs lately. We have been doing these jobs with a one ton flat bed, and five differnet size stihl saws, nothing else loading and unloading by hand. Any one near Va. have any equipment in the yard that they would sell at an afforable price to a company that is finally getting the big jobs to get a chipper, dump, a lift would be nice but I climb and can manage a rental for what isn't safe to climb. I have 18 days to complete the job.

 

[John464]

12 trees is a huge job?

 

[dave066]

all over or near buildings, over 40" dbh, multi tops, for a company working by hand thats big, machiary would make it small, but a very nice price tag makes it big. for me.

 

[arbor pro]

Plenty of trailer places to buy a dump trailer and plenty of equipment dealerships to buy a new or used skid steer and grapple. Or, you could just go rent the two from either a dealership or a rental place. Problem solved.

I'll sell you my Bandit 200+ chipper for $8500. Runs great and looks very good (see attachment). 12" capacity.

Where are you out of?

 

[Toddppm]

Just drove through Lexington on Sunday , nice area.
On the way down to SC I saw an equipment dealer off of 77 I think it was, not too far away that had a few tree dumps and I think might have had a couple chippers? I was going kinda fast and the family groans when I want to turn around to look at things like that so I didn't

There's also the Tree eqpt. dealer in Ashland down near Richmond or even go down to Sherrill in NC , not really that far.

Shouldn't have much trouble finding good eqpt. in this economy.

 

[Rftreeman]

12 trees is a huge job?

it is when you only have a flat bed 1 ton truck.......

reminds me of a guy I worked for once, bid jobs then try to find the resources to do them in the allotted time and end up losing most because of not being able to get them done.

 

[mckeetree]

it is when you only have a flat bed 1 ton truck.......

reminds me of a guy I worked for once, bid jobs then try to find the resources to do them in the allotted time and end up losing most because of not being able to get them done.

There is a tree service around here that does that all the time. They under bid me on a big job last week and now they are scrambling trying to find something to work with. Why do folks even bid on jobs they aren't set up to do.

 

[arbor pro]

There is a tree service around here that does that all the time. They under bid me on a big job last week and now they are scrambling trying to find something to work with. Why do folks even bid on jobs they aren't set up to do.

It's called taking controlled risk in order to grow as a company. If the work is there to justify the growth, one can easily acquire (buy or rent) equipment to do the work so long as you have the experience to go along with it. However, buying the equipment before you have the work to support it is a much riskier proposition.

Controlled risk is the key to business success. Rental companies make it easier for new businesses to grow with less financial risk. That's good for the new businesses and not so good for existing businesses who have more and more competition. But, competition is what America's all about. Who can blame a new guy for wanting to take some risk and see his business grow.

We all took some risks at some point in the life of our businesses didn't we and don't we still do it to continue growing as a company...?

 

[mckeetree]

It's called taking controlled risk

Oh, is that what it is called. And here I have been calling it something else.

 

[Rftreeman]

It's called taking controlled risk in order to grow as a company. If the work is there to justify the growth, one can easily acquire (buy or rent) equipment to do the work so long as you have the experience to go along with it. However, buying the equipment before you have the work to support it is a much riskier proposition.

Controlled risk is the key to business success. Rental companies make it easier for new businesses to grow with less financial risk. That's good for the new businesses and not so good for existing businesses who have more and more competition. But, competition is what America's all about. Who can blame a new guy for wanting to take some risk and see his business grow.

We all took some risks at some point in the life of our businesses didn't we and don't we still do it to continue growing as a company...?

as long as the bid is right this works but the one I worked for would lose money or the contract, hopefully dave has bid a good price and can borrow against the contract to get the resources to handle the job.

Let us know how it works out dave.

 

[dave066]

Five of the trees are out, and final clean up for two items get done today. 7 more. The two maples I just removed yesterday over the coach house at VMI. After putting the base on the ground, cutting it into manageable pieces, just below the first crotch (20 feet) it has a hollow spot the size of a basket ball that travels all the way down except the for two feet of the trunk. Didn't find any thing wrong up in the canapy, the limbs wear strong healthy, plenty of foilage. Looks as though a limb had been cut of just below the crotch a long time ago now its a hole the size of my fist and thats wear the hole starts at the top.:crazy1::crazy1:

 

[BC WetCoast]

There is a tree service around here that does that all the time. They under bid me on a big job last week and now they are scrambling trying to find something to work with. Why do folks even bid on jobs they aren't set up to do.

That's how Mark Cuban got started. Worked pretty well for him.

 

[dave066]

don't know of mark but,we are rolling along on this job, and was approtched by the engineer dept. yesterday to put a price on three strumps and another maple. we have a bandit 150, this thing eats, I love it..

 

[dave066]

coming along well, need to bring in a crane in a couple days to get a trunk off a bank at the VMI foot ball stadium. But other than that we are climbing and roping every thing out as we go.

 

[Rickytree]

Dave you need to get a loader! keep up the good work and everything will come together. Check out my video "can a bucket do this". You'll see why.

 

[dave066]

we have a good size long tracktor, its a friends, but it is limited to how big a piece int can lift, but after I finish this job i'll have a few thousand to squander on machinary, just don't want to finance and then lose it because things slow up for again.

 

[BC WetCoast]

don't know of mark but,we are rolling along on this job, and was approtched by the engineer dept. yesterday to put a price on three strumps and another maple. we have a bandit 150, this thing eats, I love it..

Mark Cuban, dot com Billionaire, owner of the Dallas Mavericks basketball team. Got a contract iwhile at university for some kind of computer networking project. Didn't know how to do it, but learned and completed the project. The moral of the story, some people push the envelope of their knowledge, skills and equipment to better themselves. Some succeed, some don't.

 

[dave066]

thats a kick a** story, i know how to do the work I just finance as I get the cash, now with VMI on my customer list around hear things hopfully will pick up, appreciate the referance, I asked a relative of my wife to do the job with me a local, who has an estblished company with all the equipment but never got a call back after I was awarded the contract. i'm not mad, we are getting it done , and after this one they will be a little more efficiant, with what I will buy at the end.

 

[Hddnis]

Good job going after the bigger contracts, that is how you grow. They just get bigger from here. Soon you'll want the small easy jobs again. lol



Mr. HE

 

[mckeetree]

Mark Cuban, dot com Billionaire, owner of the Dallas Mavericks basketball team. Got a contract iwhile at university for some kind of computer networking project. Didn't know how to do it, but learned and completed the project. The moral of the story, some people push the envelope of their knowledge, skills and equipment to better themselves. Some succeed, some don't.

Nice little story. It has cirulated before. Too bad it is hogwash. BTW, Cuban's manager for the Mavericks, Donnie Nelson, recently screwed us out of over $800.00 on a job.