Forester 36" bar/ chain?

[Hunt4lumber]

Im looking to order a forester 36" pro bar/ 3/8 050 114 drive ripping chain for my ms460 mag from ebay.
My question is, how do i know if it will fit my sprocket on saw?
It says it fits a stihl, but how can i be sure it'll work?
Ive ran chainsaws since my dad would take me into woods with him for firewood, but i never have really known alot about specifics on saws( just ran em stock)always stihls...thanks, Matt

 

[Dave6390]

Contact the seller, on eBay and ask him if the bar will work with your saw. Tell him/her the pin count on your sprocket. I always ask before committing. Best of luck.

 

[blades]

Look up the blade mount style numbers for your saw they need to match the style mount of the blade. if your current blade is using 3/8 x .050 and it is the oem drive sprocket count you should be good to go.

 

[Hunt4lumber]

Ok, so just count the teeth on sprocket?
I wasnt sure if its just a count or if theres diff types of sprockets?

 

[blades]

Different sprockets for size of chain Like .404 vs 3/8 same thing with bar grove .050 ,.058, .063 . Pertinent numbers should be printed or stamped on bar. Stilh bar mount # 3001-3002-3003 might be a 3004 also. A 36" bar stilh #3003-000-8853 would be a foresterS3650114W what I can't tell right at the moment is weather the 3003 mount is correct for your 460- it is for the 046 though. This is a 3/8-.050-114 drive link bar with a replaceable nose. hope this is of some help.

 

[Jimbo209]

As long as it says 12mm slot for 660/066 aka 3003 mount not 14mm 880/088/084 aka 3002 or the big old mag case 056/076/070/090 3001 just to name some.

Re your sprocket you will need a 7x3/8 pin and may want to order a extra just for the mill chain vs your general bucking/felling chain. Only added 30-60 second to bar change when setting up the mill for me.
(search and read up on sprocket/chain wear patterns as to what I mean)

All sprockets fit all chains .050/.058/.063 before being worn in.


Other consideration is possibly using 3/8 low pro .365

 

[blades]

12mm to 14mm thats what dremel type tools are for

 

[Jimbo209]

12mm to 14mm thats what dremel type tools are for

Dremel the hardened steel?? drill mill bolts with a masonry bit


460=12mm
All MS numbered saws have 12mm from the (024/026chassis)260/261 to the 660/661 only difference is sprocket availability(ms241 uses small 3005. 024 is a small bore 026)

If the bar is a 3002/1 then you need a spacer/bit of wire to go 14mm>12mm
Again search

 

[Hunt4lumber]

Thanks so much to all,
Next im wondering what peoples opinion is on forester bars for rip sawing?
Another thought is seller on ebay has a bar/ 4 chain combo im leaning towards, and gives option of chisel, partial chisel, and ripping.
What is best chain for buck sawing on a 32" maple with an original ms460 mag ( dual port muffler)and 36" chain.
Im experienced w/ my ms 290/ 040 super and 18" bar but nothing w/ a bar this long, or saw this powerful, and dont want to tax saw too much w/ wrong chain...( im only buck saw this tree w/ said setup 4 times max) then using 36" bar w/ ripping chain 6 times max...

 

[blades]

Ripping chain for milling/ cutting with the grain. The other are primarily for cross cut.

 

[Jimbo209]

Ripping chain is just filled at 10deg instead of 30/35deg of normal chain. That's the only difference 99% of the time

Set the rakers to 6-7 deg as per BobL progressive and just go slowly and feel/listen to your saw.
Also de-tune it a bit fatter as the mill is a longer cut that needs it.

 

[blades]

True milling chain is a 3 step, Left slicer right slicer ( really no top plate) then a full cutter - various versions and arrangements. a skip chain works fairly well in a pinch. not as much load on the saw in either case as the long milling cuts are quite taxing.

 

[BobL]

True milling chain is a 3 step, Left slicer right slicer ( really no top plate) then a full cutter - various versions and arrangements. a skip chain works fairly well in a pinch. not as much load on the saw in either case as the long milling cuts are quite taxing.

That chain was invented by Will Malloff, but folks have been milling long before that chain was invented and long since afterwards without using it. The proposal that it or skip chain reduces load is debatable as the load depends as much on the side plate cutting angle and the raker angle and it does not take into account that only every 3 or 4th cutter even on a full comp chain is fully loaded. The only way to be certain of reducing the load on the power head is to use something like 5 skip chain or lowering the raker angle.

 

[Hunt4lumber]

Dose a low profile3/8 050 ripping chain fit a specific sprocket?
Will it be easier on my ms460 w/ a 36" bar when used cutting with the grain?
Gb ripping bars vs forester bars?

 

[BobL]

Dose a low profile3/8 050 ripping chain fit a specific sprocket?

Yes. Low pro is not really 3/8 chain, its a bit smaller.
If you run lopro on a standard 3/8 sprocket you might be able to get it to run for a while by keeping the chain extra tight but it will mess with the sprocket and VV.
FWIW I've rolled my own lopro drive sprockets by turning down 404 sprockets on a lathe and it works really well.

Will it be easier on my ms460 w/ a 36" bar when used cutting with the grain?

Yes it will, but not that much. Lo pro generates a lightly smaller kerf (~15%) so the load is reduce by ~15%.

Sorry can't comment on the forrester bars.