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budroe69moni

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hey guys,
check this out......
this was on the front page of our local paper
a while back. isn't this a great representation
of what is acceptabe to the general public of
our industry????:rolleyes:
oh brother, where do i start?????
budroe:cool:
 
So that's what you guys do.

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Other than poor technique (leaning in instead of back against his lanyard), one-handing the saw (virtually a requirement trimming palms from a ladder) and no hardhat (few climbers wear them around here) I don't think that this is so far out of line with accepted practice. How would you do it differently, Spencer? JPS? You ever trimmed a palm, John?

I would be one step higher on the ladder and have my helmet on (finally started wearing a helmet last year). Oh, and I have a rope lanyard instead of a leather strap lanyard. Go ahead and tear me up, I'm ready! :cool:

Edited-I just noticed he wasn't wearing eye protection. STUPID, especially in a palm!
 
the thing that really caught my eye was
the total lack of PPE. Just a matter of time
before i post a follow-up to this post......
"chain saw accident".
budroe:cool:
 
Brian;
His ladder isn't secured, his boots (shoes) appear to have no heel ,
I see stuff falling so I assume he's cutting and looking elsewhere.
 
Yet, what do we expect from the local media: it looks cool, so they print it.

A weekly paper in Boulder did its annual "best of" edition, and chose one of the least knowledgeable companies in town for its "best tree trimming service" page. These guys wear no helmets, don't use any post 1980 techniques, own no rigging equipment beyond an old frayed piece of 5/8'ths arborplex, and butcher the crap out of trees. The reason for choosing this company? "They even use technical geer like ropes and saddles." The writer was very impressed by this fact.
 
Originally posted by Kevin
Brian;
His ladder isn't secured, his boots (shoes) appear to have no heel ,
I see stuff falling so I assume he's cutting and looking elsewhere.
Gotta disagree with you on this one, Kevin. I've rarely tied a ladder to a palm in 20 years. Only when working on huge ladders extended all the way up (over 35'). By the looks of the ladder, it's only a 24' ladder and virtually unextended so he's probably only got the ladder up 12'-14'. Hardly a place requiring tying the ladder. Besides, his lanyard is around the outside of the ladder (I do this frequently to help keep the ladder centered by simply leaning back).

The heels of his boots are jammed against the ladder rungs. Exactly how a person should stand on a ladder.

I do not know how to reply to the last statement. The chain is not in contact with the tree so he obviously just finished a cut. How long should he continue to stare at the cut he just made?

I'm not saying this guy is doing it right, but I don't see these 3 items being an issue.
 
JPS
good assessment of the picture of the young man pruning a baby palm tree. I like the fact that he did not gaff or hook this tree. Many arborists still think its fine to sink their hooks in palms year after year. If he, the young climber were taught better he probably would be great. Handles saw well, very muscular, looks like he climbs everyday, but is a bone head for not wearing a hard hat, longsleaves, goggle type eyewear, heavy duty gloves and a bandana around his neck to keep the palm debris from going down the back of his neck. the big thorns on the fronds from gigging him etc..........
 
Per ANSI Z133 ladders SHALL be tied in while working off them.

It does not take flong to flip and a dust a ladder line and hook it in.

You yourself know it does not take all that much to hurt a man in a fall.
 
My ladder is 28' fiberglass and is equipped with a pole strap at the top and spurs at the bottom.
When I work off this ladder with a chainsaw the ladder is winch strapped to the spar around the top portion of the ladder.
My (wire core)flipline is around the outside of one handrail , around the spar and back through the ladder between the rungs and snapped to my belt.
Sometimes the flipline gets one wrap around the handrail after it enters through the rungs.
If anyone has a safer method than this I`d be interested in hearing it.
 
I wonder how close those wires are? Using an aluminum ladder near pwer lines is a definite no-no. I usually use 2 lanyards(one choked around trunk and one around the ladder rails), or an adjustable false crotch and lanyard. Also have hardhat, eye and ear protection.
 
Nice pic hillybilly. That guy doesn't even have to worry about kickback. Just stick yer head 15cm from the saw. I am suprise more accidents don't happen.

What about the baggy ghetto jeans that guy is wearing on the ladder?

Way to go gump!!
 

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