Getting Paid Right For My Logs

[FLtreeGuyVHTC]

Well Finger Lakes Ny got slamed with Straight Line winds and I ended up with some very nice white pine logs and some black walnut logs. Walnut logs blew over landing into another walnut. They didnt crack and can't wait to get them loaded up and out with the white pine. Was offered a dollar per bf but when he paid me last time I know i had more bf then he paid me for. Been trying to find a good mill Local to central new york that will scalethe logs not just offer what ever. The logs will be harvested, photographed,and then painted to keep mositure in to stop end splitting. One log is easily 30in dia with 25' to the 35' ft to the frist limb. The white pine are anywhere from 16" 14'.5 long. Was offered $.22 a bf which was higher then the orignal mill. But have a feeling if I find an actual mill besides some Amish Guy I'll make more money. Also looking at a logging contract of an acre. Should I contact my local DEC office to see what mills are paying or is there somewhere else I should look. Any information may be helpful. I'm based out of a dmalll town inbetween Cyauga and Seneca Lake. Thanks

PS Black Walnuts were out of a cemetry that is well maintained

 

[Dalmatian90]

PS Black Walnuts were out of a cemetry that is well maintained

That's more likely to reduce their value.

http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/forestry/um/whatMyYardTreeWorth.pdf

NY State stumpage reports are here:
Stumpage Price Reports - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

$1/bf seems to be about dead nuts average for good but not great quality Walnut looking at the last two reports (on the reports is the price per thousand board feet). As to how to measure it, I'll have to leave that fight up to you folks to argue in person!

 

[Oldtimer]

If you get $220 per MBF, that's doing OK...IF you're not the guy delivering it in.

I get $260 on the landing, which basically means before trucking costs. And I pay the landowner out of that...so figure on a good lot that's an easy go, and decent pine, and plenty of it...I'll usually aim to pay $180 for it. I aim to pay less as the difficulty rises and the quality goes down.

So, to recap:

Trucker gets $340 per MBF @ the mill...he takes $80 per for the trucking (LONG haul to the mill)...I get $260....landowner gets up to $180...usually around $150.

This is mid eastern NH, and the mill is Hancock in Bethel Maine.

Walnut, I have no idea, but I know $1000 per MBF is nothing to biatch about.

 

[FLtreeGuyVHTC]

If you get $220 per MBF, that's doing OK...IF you're not the guy delivering it in.

I get $260 on the landing, which basically means before trucking costs. And I pay the landowner out of that...so figure on a good lot that's an easy go, and decent pine, and plenty of it...I'll usually aim to pay $180 for it. I aim to pay less as the difficulty rises and the quality goes down.

So, to recap:

Trucker gets $340 per MBF @ the mill...he takes $80 per for the trucking (LONG haul to the mill)...I get $260....landowner gets up to $180...usually around $150.

This is mid eastern NH, and the mill is Hancock in Bethel Maine.

Walnut, I have no idea, but I know $1000 per MBF is nothing to biatch about.

Ok Sounds about right. I always research my walnut logs before I sell them. I sold a 12' with 20" black spot for $550. Was Grade A log. Guy only wanted to pay me $100 per MBF delivered. But that was for Noreigan Pine and scotch pine. Most my logs are 14' ft. Guy that I've been selling the white pine to won't even buy the scotch. They are beautiful logs. Probably end up milling them up and making sheds or a solar kiln...

 

[tramp bushler]

do you have a Scribner scale book? . You can scale your own logs, then you know what board footage is in the logs. Or a Doyal book or rule.

 

[FLtreeGuyVHTC]

do you have a Scribner scale book? . You can scale your own logs, then you know what board footage is in the logs. Or a Doyal book or rule.

I carry a doyle stick with me but it only tells me how many board feet. Not sure how to grade them. I usually wont mess with black walnuts unless they are beautiful logs. I know to measure from the small end frist. But far as grade A 1 or 2 not sure how to do that. I look for veneer logs but every buyer seems to be skechy...

 

[tramp bushler]

ya. gradeing logs isn't my thing either.
There are so many regional and market variables it's hard to say. Maybe the scaler who is doing your logs could show you some things.

 

[lmbrman]

Most of the mills around here will give a bid on the landing for your logs, but not sure about your area, and around here after a storm prices drop quite a bit as some of the damage does not show up until you saw the logs. As metioned, get yourself a scale stick and book and start learning how to scale. Another possibility is hire a certified scaler for a fee, or ,,

open up the logs yourself and know for sure what they are worth :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[FLtreeGuyVHTC]

Most of the mills around here will give a bid on the landing for your logs, but not sure about your area, and around here after a storm prices drop quite a bit as some of the damage does not show up until you saw the logs. As metioned, get yourself a scale stick and book and start learning how to scale. Another possibility is hire a certified scaler for a fee, or ,,

open up the logs yourself and know for sure what they are worth :hmm3grin2orange:

Might do this. found a local that has a 44" blade mill rather cheap