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Rudy M.

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OK--I am about ready to bag fixing the old stuff and just break down and buy some new stuff. I don't want to start a Husky versus Stihl debate--and I like the pro stuff and will pay for it at least for a big saw, but do I need it?

I'm thinking maybe a pro Stihl or Husky in the 55-60cc range, and then a home-owner small one for trimming and limbing--maybe a little MS170 or 210 Stihl or the small Husky counterpart.

For Husky, I'm not sure I want to go all the way with a 60cc XP--but maybe a Rancher 455 at the minimum, but more likely a 359 E-Tech and a 142 for little stuff--that's about $700.00 plus cases and stuff. I can get the 142 for about $150.00 or so but the place I'd get the 359 from doesn't carry those, and actually recommended a Stihl over the Husky for a small saw--he doesn't sell Stihl--has Echo though.

For Stihl, I am thinking a MS 170 or MS 210 for the small stuff (in an earlier post, someone said save $100.00 and get the 170, but then you can walk farther with 210 because it holds more oil and gas--both very good points). For the big stuff I cut, either a MS 260 or 361.

Or should I drop down a bit from the above 260 (very good old tech) and the 361 (new tech) and get a mid-range saw such as the 290 or 310 (aren't these equal to the Rancher and 359?).

Littl saw--14" or 16" bar? Big saw--20" for sure!

I burn about 2 cords a year, but cut about 4 or so if I count brush, fence rows, deer hunting lanes, dirt bike trails and tractor paths, plus the trees that fall across these trails. I have many acres of oak, hickory, beech and maple. Some of the big beech are getting blown over. One will heat me for about a year. I am half tempted to work part-time and cut wood I have so much--and I would get more in tune with the deer too! I don't burn it all--often just stack it up into a ground blind and there it rots. I'm PO'd right now because both saws are down and I have 30" dia x 20+' of cherry down I need to cut so I get my kid busy splitting and stacking and I can go dirt biking and fishing!

Sorry about the long post, but that's the situation!

Rudy M.
 
There are lots of good choices out there. For the amount of cutting you're doing I would seriously consider an MS290 or MS310, along with a small saw like an MS170 or Echo CS346. An MS361 would be very nice, but might be more $$$ than your cutting justifies.

For the larger saw a 20" bar will be fine as an all-around length. On the small saw, a 12" or 14" would be a good choice.

Where in Michigan are you located?
 
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I will avoid the husky stihl debate

dolmar 7900 for felling and bucking the bigger wood. and the 5100 for limbing and bucking pieces up to 6-8 inches.
 
If looking for a Pro series feller/bucker how 'bout a ms360 then the 170/210 for a limber. Should be able to do that in the range you're looking to spend. 361 would bump it up a bit, but is a nice saw. 290/310s are ok saws, I'm not personally fond of their ergonomics, but they are fine firewood saws.

Got nothing against Husky, no orange bashin' here. Never ran the 359, but is probably a good saw for your purpose. The 142 would work well as your limber/small wood saw.

IMHO, go pick up the saws you're interested in, run 'em if possible(go find a dealer that'll let ya), pick the ones that best fit your needs and pocket book. Oh, if dealer support is important to you, the "feel" you get from his shop is as important as the product. If you can go it alone, maybe not as crucial.
 
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JMHO, but if I were to suddenly have no saws and the needs that you describe, I would go with one of the following two choices, depending upon budget and whether or not you want to carry two saws.

Opton A - Either a PS-5100s or MS361 (One saw)

Option B - Echo CS-346 and PS-7900 (Two saws)

For my taste, the option A saws are a little too heavy for small stuff and limbing, and are a little on the small side for felling, bucking, but will get both jobs done if you are not making a living at it. Option B? Well, just more fun.
 
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did i not see a similar post about the perfect falling pair. it seems the best way to find a saw is to go shopin localcly . find a couple of dealers localcly and pick up differnt models and find the right one that way. that way us experts cant spread chainsaw sickness. one ends up being two and so on:rock: :cheers:
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OK--thanks for the tips. I had never heard of Dolmar until I found this site--I have not seen any dealers here in SW MI. I am no longer impressed with the Husky dealer near me. I was really turned off by one Stihl dealer who wanted to buy my 031AV for $30.00 for parts and told me it was not worth fixing. I am getting that saw fixed by another Stihl dealer for about $100.00--crank seals--what is the displacement of an 031 anyway?

I think I'll get a MS310 with a 20" bar, and maybe a little MS170 with a 14" bar. I think the 031AV is between these saws. Then I will worry about getting my Homelite 360 working then mothball it or sell it--no safety brake on that saw.

Would that be a good combo--MS170/14", 031AV/16", and MS310/20" all with 3/8" chain so I don't have to have different sharpening stuff.

Rudy M.
 
OK--thanks for the tips. I had never heard of Dolmar until I found this site--I have not seen any dealers here in SW MI. I am no longer impressed with the Husky dealer near me. I was really turned off by one Stihl dealer who wanted to buy my 031AV for $30.00 for parts and told me it was not worth fixing. I am getting that saw fixed by another Stihl dealer for about $100.00--crank seals--what is the displacement of an 031 anyway?

I think I'll get a MS310 with a 20" bar, and maybe a little MS170 with a 14" bar. I think the 031AV is between these saws. Then I will worry about getting my Homelite 360 working then mothball it or sell it--no safety brake on that saw.

Would that be a good combo--MS170/14", 031AV/16", and MS310/20" all with 3/8" chain so I don't have to have different sharpening stuff.

Rudy M.

Sounds like you're doing good. One pitch chain is a good idea for simplifying your life. Your bar spacing looks ok. Glad you found a dealer you could work with, even though I do most all my own saw maintenance and good dealer is worth gold IMO. Also glad to see you "save" the old 031, it's always good to have backups, feces happens.
 
Thanks for all the tips and advice people! I ended up getting a new Stihl MS 310 and a new MS210. 20" bar on the 310 and I kept the 14" on the 210. They gave me the longer bar, chain and extra chains for both saws for no charge, plus a hat when they get more. I origianlly walked in to get the 310 and a 170, until I saw in person just how small the tanks were on the 170--I wanted the extra capacity of the 210 just so I don't have to carry that stuff with me on a trail trimming walk or ride. This saw will also ride nicely on the back of my dirt bike on a ProMotoBillet rack for trail maintenance.

When I get the 031AV back, I'll have a nice arsenal. This morning my dentist told me he just got a MS 440! I'm jeolous--but he has a lot more trees and fence lines than I do, and has one of those huge outside wood heaters to feed.
 
Thanks for all the tips and advice people! I ended up getting a new Stihl MS 310 and a new MS210. 20" bar on the 310 and I kept the 14" on the 210. They gave me the longer bar, chain and extra chains for both saws for no charge, plus a hat when they get more. I origianlly walked in to get the 310 and a 170, until I saw in person just how small the tanks were on the 170--I wanted the extra capacity of the 210 just so I don't have to carry that stuff with me on a trail trimming walk or ride. This saw will also ride nicely on the back of my dirt bike on a ProMotoBillet rack for trail maintenance.

When I get the 031AV back, I'll have a nice arsenal. This morning my dentist told me he just got a MS 440! I'm jeolous--but he has a lot more trees and fence lines than I do, and has one of those huge outside wood heaters to feed.

Way to go with the 210 instead of the 170! As far as I'm concerned the MS170 doesn't exist unless a customer asks us to special order one for them. I don't stock it, and we've only sold 1 in the last 3 years. It does get a bit frustrating though when most of the Stihl ads we paid for feature it against our wishes when we don't sell it. If they want a 170 I sell them a 180. The customer is happier and I'm happier. :biggrinbounce2:

Oh and for Andy...are they doing the same ad campaign out in the NW that they are in the east? Here almost all the ads feature the ms170, fs45, and km55, and BG55 with only the occasional mention of an FS90 or BR550. It drives me nuts because none of those lower end models are our high volume units.
 
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