Gypo Logger
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Bet it takes at least 50 posts for someone to identify this tree.
Hint: it grows around the eastern Great Lakes and is a hardwood.
Hint: it grows around the eastern Great Lakes and is a hardwood.
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treeslayer2003
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kinda looks like musclewood but never seen one that big
Gypo Logger
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Gypo Logger
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I thought It might be easier to fool you guys. Lol
Yes it is in fact Ironwood or hornbeam, not the blue beech or muscle wood of the same family.
Although Ive seen and cut lots of ironwood, this is the largest specimen I've seen. The pic is maybe 12 years old and a bit overexposed making id more difficult.
This one is at least 6' circ.
The old fella was 81 at the time and since passed.
Id have no problem if I was buried under that tree if its still there.
John
Yes it is in fact Ironwood or hornbeam, not the blue beech or muscle wood of the same family.
Although Ive seen and cut lots of ironwood, this is the largest specimen I've seen. The pic is maybe 12 years old and a bit overexposed making id more difficult.
This one is at least 6' circ.
The old fella was 81 at the time and since passed.
Id have no problem if I was buried under that tree if its still there.
John
Gypo Logger
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I don't recall what the shack was used for, maybe a sugar shack, but something fertilized that tree. When and if I go back I'll see if it's still there and bring the metal detector.
I've only found one stand of that stuff and the biggest was maybe 8" diameter
Just took a quick look into my AFA "Knowing Your Trees", specifically p.192.
American Hornbeam, Carpinus caroliniana, is also known as Blue Beech, Water Beech and Ironwood. So, it only took one post, not 50. Should have taken your bet.
When do I get to dig into my chicken dinner?
We have some of those trees around here, but nothing like that monster. Will be watching for the rest of its story.
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
There seems to be hornbeam and hop hornbeam. The blue beech is one and one pictured is the other one.
John
John
Just took a quick look into my AFA "Knowing Your Trees", specifically p.192.
American Hornbeam, Carpinus caroliniana, is also known as Blue Beech, Water Beech and Ironwood. So, it only took one post, not 50. Should have taken your bet.
When do I get to dig into my chicken dinner?
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
How about this one, it grows from coast to coast, its about 3'circ at stump height.
We also have some hophornbeam trees around here (and a pure stand around the visitor center at Saratoga Battlefield FWIW). IMO you'd never confuse the two, even in winter. Hophornbeam has bark of raised plates, kinda like shagbark hickory, nothing like the tight bark of American Hornbeam.
The experts (not me) call American Hornbeam and Blue Beech one and the same.
What kind of veggies come with that chicken dinner, and how much room should I reserve for dessert?
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
Your right, the two are unmistakable, muscle wood is tougher and very bendable and swings right back to shape when green, it is not as impervious to rot as hophornbean. Hornbeam means tough wood in Latin. It burns very hot.We also have some hophornbeam trees around here (and a pure stand around the visitor center at Saratoga Battlefield FWIW). IMO you'd never confuse the two, even in winter. Hophornbeam has bark of raised plates, kinda like shagbark hickory, nothing like the tight bark of American Hornbeam.
The experts (not me) call American Hornbeam and Blue Beech one and the same.
What kind of veggies come with that chicken dinner, and how much room should I reserve for dessert?
The blue beech is creamy white inside while the hop is a darker colour.
Iska3
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Around here Ironwood is a slow growing tree or a bush so we never see many over 6 to 8 inches and even that if we are lucky. I think it has a lot to do with those trees were slow growing in pastures or line fenced and the cows or the deer would keep them in check. Years ago I was moose hunting up around Dog Lake in Canada and they had some real large Ironwood trees like the one in the picture. Almost every trapper shack was filled with Ironwood because the bark was clean and the wood burned real hot and the coals would last the night.
I thought it was a Grampatree - it looks so human...
Okay, I'll bite. Apple. Call it "Granny Smith" if ya wanna get picky. Sure looks like a tough old girl.
timbrjackrussel
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Looks like Butternut, but it doesn't grow coast to coast.
Gypo Logger
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No ones even close yet. Hint: there are over 32 sub species.
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