Have I been swindled?

[Marktever]

When I first got into this I needed a 30"+ bar and chain for my old Homelite vi944. I went to the local tool and saw dealer and lo and behold he just happened to have a 31" Homelite bar and 103 DL chain. Being younger and alot stupider ('bout 2 months ago) I bought them. Well, as I've previously posted, everything worked OK except my cuts were extremely rough. Since then I have learned a few things, mostly from you guys, and i noticed a lot of looseness in the chain. I found out that what I have is a .063 ga. bar and a .050 ga. chain. I went back to the shop and the guy told me you want at least .008 clearance between bar and chain and it was very common to use a .050 chain with a .063 bar. Is this guy yankin' my chain or is that arrangement alright?

 

[Timberframed]

Salesman needs to up his basic rithmatic' skills to > than the 3rd grade. 063-.050 = .013. I dunno...sounds loose.

 

[discounthunter]

its ok for bucking but not good to mill.way too much slop in the chain.plus when milling, regular ground chain at 30deg will work but it will be rougher than a milling ground chain at 5-10deg.

 

[BIG JAKE]

He prolly made the judgment it'd be OK for bucking. Get yet money back on the chain, get the right gauge chain for your bar then you should get much smoother lumber. If he won't it's on him. ;Bailey's should have what you need

 

[BobL]

That much slop is not good for either milling or bucking and I would stop using that setup immediately.

If you keep bucking with that set up after a while you will end up cutting in an arc and may even jam the bar.
If you mill with that setup after a while the bar will end up diving or rising in the cut.

In both cases that amount of play will force the chain to lay to one side in the cut. After a little cutting a preferential lay-over side will be established and it will wear the bar and chain on one side to the point where the chain will have to be thrown away and the bar will need to be dressed so that the bar rails are even again (thus losing bar rail depth).

Before you put a new chain on it make sure the bar rails are square otherwise you will transfer this problem to the new chain.

 

[2dumb4words]

That much slop is not good for either milling or bucking and I would stop using that setup immediately.

If you keep bucking with that set up after a while you will end up cutting in an arc and may even jam the bar.
If you mill with that setup after a while the bar will end up diving or rising in the cut.

In both cases that amount of play will force the chain to lay to one side in the cut. After a little cutting a preferential lay-over side will be established and it will wear the bar and chain on one side to the point where the chain will have to be thrown away and the bar will need to be dressed so that the bar rails are even again (thus losing bar rail depth).

Before you put a new chain on it make sure the bar rails are square otherwise you will transfer this problem to the new chain.

What he said...^

And he either needs to make it right. Or wonder why you quit spending money in his shop.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Yup he missed the 4 W's reading,riting,and rithmetic.

 

[ffquimby]

When I first got into this I needed a 30"+ bar and chain for my old Homelite vi944. I went to the local tool and saw dealer and lo and behold he just happened to have a 31" Homelite bar and 103 DL chain. Being younger and alot stupider ('bout 2 months ago) I bought them. Well, as I've previously posted, everything worked OK except my cuts were extremely rough. Since then I have learned a few things, mostly from you guys, and i noticed a lot of looseness in the chain. I found out that what I have is a .063 ga. bar and a .050 ga. chain. I went back to the shop and the guy told me you want at least .008 clearance between bar and chain and it was very common to use a .050 chain with a .063 bar. Is this guy yankin' my chain or is that arrangement alright?

If I were you I would try to find a different saw shop to spend your money at. Someplace where the person has some more knowledge. Just my opinion.

 

[tolman_paul]

Simply put the guy is lying to you, sold you the wrong chain and if we was a reputable business man he would replace the chain with with a proper 063 103DL chain.

 

[KiwiBro]

A few years ago a similar thing happened to me, but not milling, just bucking - I left my spare chains at home, bust my only .063 32" chain on the job, and rushed to a local saw shop for a replacement loop (this is before I could repair myself). He only had .050 in stock and swore black and blue that is was fine to use in my bar. I didn't really feel comfortable with it but didn't know exactly any better, didn't have anywhere else within range to go, he insisted and claimed he'd been in the business longer than I've been alive, etc, etc. It took less than a 1/2 hr of bucking with that chain to realise I'd been had. That old ******* taught me a lesson that day, and ever since I've done everything I can to teach him a lesson - having spent about $8k on gear I could have bought from him but never will seeing as I will never set foot in his store again.