Have we picked apart his one yet?

[John Paul Sanborn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJvRRPuTm1c&feature=related

 

[TreeWhitelock]

Ha Ha Ha. I like the lowering device segment! it must of been cold out and he forgot how its used right.

 

[tree md]

Yep, this one was picked apart last year.

Good job IMO, no damage and everyone went home safe.

 

[tree md]

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=86927

 

[treemandan]

I thought it went well but I don't know if I would be using a slingshot to heave pieces off like that. I think I would have used a zipline.
I tell you what: i think I would have sawzalled the gutter out of the way and drop the whole dam thing!

 

[treeslayer]

I tell you what: i think I would have sawzalled the gutter out of the way and drop the whole dam thing!

Why, the tree would have not been slowed by it.
Carpenters and roofers need to eat, too.

 

[Rftreeman]

Yep, this one was picked apart last year.

Good job IMO, no damage and everyone went home safe.

yep, got it done with out a crane and no damage......

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

yep, got it done with out a crane and no damage......

I would not have even thought of putting a crane on it, looks like a work-a-day removal without the roof-notch.

 

[custom8726]

I would not have even thought of putting a crane on it, looks like a work-a-day removal without the roof-notch.

Why?? 2-3hrs in & out, much less physically demanding on the crew as a whole, and most importantly, plenty of hrs left in the day to make more money. Assuming a crane was feasable on the job to begin with? If not, not a bad job IMHO..

 

[Blakesmaster]

Why?? 2-3hrs in & out, much less physically demanding on the crew as a whole, and most importantly, plenty of hrs left in the day to make more money. Assuming a crane was feasable on the job to begin with? If not, not a bad job IMHO..

I think adding a crane would have made it nice and fun as well as efficient but the tree was nothing special and wouldn't warrant a crane unless you had one of your own or you were overbooked and needed to bang it out right quick.

 

[custom8726]

I think adding a crane would have made it nice and fun as well as efficient but the tree was nothing special and wouldn't warrant a crane unless you had one of your own or you were overbooked and needed to bang it out right quick.

Agreed, to a point.... Once again assuming access was not an issue, I would book a couple of these jobs and bang them out in a day no problem. Question, What would you bid this tree at?? Tuff to say for sure looking at a pic, but a ball park figure will do. Say for example, its a $1,700.00 tree to rope and rig out by hand in 6-8 hr's... $40 X 8 = $320 for two guys at 20 per hr. Then fuel + wear and tear on you & your employees, $$??... Small crane, say 27 ton = $125.00 per hr X 2 hrs + $250.00. You bid the tree at $1,500 because you know you can get in and out quick. Crane and 1 other guy pack up and get set up on next job while other 2 guys finish up detail (Raking, blow off drive etc.) Detail guys meet you at next job and your set up and ready to rock.. Like the old saying goes "Time is money" regardless if you are over booked or not. This way of buisness works well for me, but I also have 5 different cranes that we use/lease on a regular basis, I know in certain areas cranes are tuffer to come by and also the price vary's considerably....

 

[Blakesmaster]

Agreed, to a point.... Once again assuming access was not an issue, I would book a couple of these jobs and bang them out in a day no problem. Question, What would you bid this tree at?? Tuff to say for sure looking at a pic, but a ball park figure will do. Say for example, its a $1,700.00 tree to rope and rig out by hand in 6-8 hr's... $40 X 8 = $320 for two guys at 20 per hr. Then fuel + wear and tear on you & your employees, $$??... Small crane, say 27 ton = $125.00 per hr X 2 hrs + $250.00. You bid the tree at $1,500 because you know you can get in and out quick. Crane and 1 other guy pack up and get set up on next job while other 2 guys finish up detail (Raking, blow off drive etc.) Detail guys meet you at next job and your set up and ready to rock.. Like the old saying goes "Time is money" regardless if you are over booked or not. This way of buisness works well for me, but I also have 5 different cranes that we use/lease on a regular basis, I know in certain areas cranes are tuffer to come by and also the price vary's considerably....

It's all about crane access. When working in PA I would book a crane for that tree in a second because I have an CO ready to roll almost any day and his rates are very reasonable. He is not licensed in NY though which means I gotta pay big bucks and they're usually booked about 4 weeks ahead from what I've heard. Never used one up here but I might look into it some day.

 

[custom8726]

It's all about crane access. When working in PA I would book a crane for that tree in a second because I have an CO ready to roll almost any day and his rates are very reasonable. He is not licensed in NY though which means I gotta pay big bucks and they're usually booked about 4 weeks ahead from what I've heard. Never used one up here but I might look into it some day.

You have to get your foot in the door with a good crane op/owner in N.Y. 6 years ago I was waiting 3-4 weeks on cranes, but once I decided on a company I like'd and felt safe to work with, I used them all the time. In return they get me in when I need them now, even if they need to pull a saturday, they will. I also use a couple other guy's that I am comfortable with, it just takes time. If the crane company does not know you or like working with you, you get put on the end of the list an usually get hit with a 4hr minimum. I am still looking hard at purchasing my own crane, but with the economy in the ####ter I have been dragging my feet a bit. On the other hand the price is right on used equipment right now, so its still a definete possibility for this up coming busy season.. Good luck and stay safe man

 

[sgreanbeans]

I would have used a tag line on all the brush, he hung that one that hit his saw, did not show how they got it out with out hitting the house, plus didnt like the saw being dropped right in the way of the swing, thats some of the stuff I seen, but I am a novice to u all, so maybe I didnt see something yall did. I like the music!

JPS, meet with VocRehab, will call u later after JUDO