is burning pine as bad as ive been told?

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just curious, ive burned a bit of pine. what i usually do is just burn a little at a time try to mix it woth hardwoods on occasion. i used to burn skids like crazy in my fireplace. they burn really fast but man do they throw the heat. any thoughts on pine burning?? thanks, Mike
 
Burning Pine

I would burn pine or other softwoods if hardwood wasn't available. It burns hotter and faster if properly seasoned. Also makes great starter wood as it is easier to light and gives almost instant heat. In many areas north of 50th parallell it is the only firewood available and lots of folks use it as it primary soure of heat.

As a recreational wood (fireplace/campfire) I woud prefer it to hardwood.
 
i guess it is possible to get a chimney fire because of the creosote that it makes but i have never gotten one from burning lots of pine, my grandfather burns alot too, nothing has happened to both of us *Knocks on wood* yet. but it helps to clean out your chimney after the season is over to prevent alot of the buildup from building up enough to burn.
 
i think moisture content is more important than wood type, so far as creosote buildup goes..........or so i've read/researched for my wood stove.
 
I cut down a pine in my yard- stacked it seperate and will probably burn it in 09-10 winter.

Basicly a lot of people would freeze if they couldn't burn pine....

Now think about this: You have to put nearly the same amount of work into pine as you do oak so if you have a choice go with the hard wood.

Stew
 
Pine has turpentine in it and yes I have had a stove pipe fire
I also have a tin roof so no big deal. I would be leary if mine
was not outside wbf. What usually happens is it builds up inside
and then when you really get er hot say dry hickory fire shoots up
seven or eight feet cool in my setup I can just watch it and laugh.
I have a good friend that won't burn nothing but red oak. I mean
nothing I have offered him free white oak,ash,hickory not for him
he had a chimney fire that scared him and he has cedar shake roof
and redwood siding!
 
ok thanks guys. ive had a pallet stacked with pine about 3 feet high for a couple years now. it was a bit over 1/2 a cord at one time. its seperate and everynow and then i use a bit of it. i get all oak and maple. almost always oak but thei year its been maple after maple. ill take what i can get. i have no intentions of burning straight pine or tons of it for that matter. i just wanted to see if i could burn it occasionally withouit any problems. i wont cut down a pine but if ones there dead maybe ill take her home now, Mike
 
Growing up all we had was wood heat in the form of a wood stove and fireplaces (I've split a lot of firewood). Every winter we built huge fires in each fireplace to burn out anything in the chimney. We never had a chimney fire this way. Now, living in the 21st century my house has central heat/AC but I still have a wood insert and use it every winter. I burn kiln dried pine and anything else I can get a hold of. I also continue to burn the chimney out once or twice a year.:angry2:
 
Not to Worry

Hello,
I have burned a lot of Pine in my Regency Hearthstove. However, I let it dry for 2 or 3 years before I burn it. It burns very hot and fairly fast but I can control the heat by just not putting more than 3 split pieces in a one time. You have to feed it more often, but that's not a big deal for me. Also, I have read comments from other people about mixing it in with other hardwood. I don't do this.....that seems to defeat the idea about burning it hot so you don't get creosote.. If it lays in there with a slow burning fire of hardwood, then I think the possibility of creosote increases.

Basso
 
Now think about this: You have to put nearly the same amount of work into pine as you do oak so if you have a choice go with the hard wood.

I agree with you there with the following exception: I have pine trees that obstruct future roads, trees that have blown down, trees that have numerous crotches that will never make a sawlog and in general trees that are in need of thinning so the good pines (or even in some cases nearby hardwoods) can have a little breathing room. This is why I cut pine - not because it is good firewood but in an effort to improve my woodlot and make use of what would otherwise be left to rot.

Ed
 
just curious, ive burned a bit of pine. what i usually do is just burn a little at a time try to mix it woth hardwoods on occasion. i used to burn skids like crazy in my fireplace. they burn really fast but man do they throw the heat. any thoughts on pine burning?? thanks, Mike

Lots of info on this site about burning pine. A search will give you lots of reading.

Here is one question answered at woodheat.org
"Is ? ? ? species of firewood unsafe or unsuitable to burn? A friend told me it would produce a lot of creosote or burn too hot."
It seems like almost every species of wood has been tagged as unsuitable by someone. This is our response:

A few species of wood can produce dangerous emissions and most of them have dangerous sounding names, like poison sumac (swamp sumac), poison dogwood, poison elderberry, poison elder, poison oak. The smoke can contain the same compounds that cause allergic reactions on skin, but when airborne can cause respiratory distress if inhaled.

Aside from these few examples, we don't consider any normal species of wood dangerous or inappropriate for burning based on the idea that they produce much more creosote. There are woods with sticky sap in their bark and others that can't be split by hand and so are not as desirable as others. But creosote is a product of combustion, not a component of wood. If burned in bright, hot fires, much less creosote is formed from whatever wood is burned. This includes the pitchy bark of pine and spruce and the volatile bark of white (paper) birch.

Our advice is to try whatever firewood you have available. Make sure the wood is properly seasoned because all wood species burn poorly and produce smoky fires if their moisture content is too high. Extremely dry wood, like kiln-dried lumber, can also produce smoky fires. If you have some very dry wood available, mix it with regular firewood to avoid excessive smoke.

Burn bright, hot fires. Don't let your fires smolder.

We burn a lot of wood that others might consider junk. But maybe junk wood is the most environmentally suitable type to burn because it is useless for any other purpose. In our view, aside from the few poisonous species, no wood species is junk unless it has been painted, treated or is salt-laden from being in the ocean.
 
Pine is all I am burning this coming winter. Due to my climate the wood is ready for the stove 6 months from splittin/stacking.

The key is don't load your stove to the gills and it won't runaway on you.
 
i got about 2 cords of free pine last year. burned it this past winter along with other wood. now, i grab it all when i see it cut up on the side of the road, but i won't work for it like hardwoods.

i went up on the roof and checked the chimney....the corners of my clay tiles have some soot on them, on the rest of them i can still see the clay. i'm not going to bother cleaning it.

...and, believe it or not, i have not cleaned the chimney since i moved in back in 1979.
 
I burn alot of pine. We have more pine than anything else around here, that's one reason. Pro's and con's just like anything else. I have a little woodstove so I don't get burned out of the room it's in. Hardwood and it's long burn times would seem the way to go but in actuallity it's not in my case. The little stove soon builds up so many coals I can't burn more wood without shoveling hot coals. I hate that. Pine on the other hand burns hot, has a brighter, livelier fire, and cranks out the heat fast. Plus, the coaling properties are perfect for my stove and burn up at a rate that matches closely when I need to re-load. To me, a hardwood fire is a duller, more boring fire. There's more labor involved because by volume the density is much less, but the good side is I get more saw time and I like swinging the maul:) . In the middle of winter I shovel ash every other day with pine. With hardwood it's once a day-another big plus. As far as soot buildup I brush the pipe about every 3 years. With the right stove, only heat waves are coming out the pipe-no visable smoke, as in my case. I have a phase 2 certified stove that's about 12 years old if memory serves. But I really like the brightness of the fire and the popping too-lively fire. I burn up to 3 cords of pine and maybe 1/2 cord of oak or pecan, or juniper. I load hardwood when we're gonna be gone extended periods say 5-7 hours. Then I have coals when I get home. The idea for me is to pay zero for natural gas (rumored to be increasing around 40% this fall). Low temps range from 9-22 degrees here in mid winter.
 

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