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Here is a pic of 2 , 20 foot logs I pulled out yesterday. I think it is Swamp or Burr Oak. How does this wood compare to red oak? It seems a little darker! Can flooring or cabinets be made out of this? I'm going to have it cut up soon and put in barn loft with stickers between to dry. Any other uses you have found for this wood? :confused:
 
Here is a pic of 2 , 20 foot logs I pulled out yesterday. I think it is Swamp or Burr Oak. How does this wood compare to red oak? It seems a little darker! Can flooring or cabinets be made out of this? I'm going to have it cut up soon and put in barn loft with stickers between to dry. Any other uses you have found for this wood? :confused:


Nice logs!

Sure looks like it is from the Red Oak family.

Is there a Swamp Red Oak?
 
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This is a pic from the Ohio Dnr website. It says its a Swamp White Oak.
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Here is pic of the Bur Oak from the same site. Might be a Bur Oak, but the leaves I found look like a Swamp White Oak.:dizzy:
 
Nice logs!

Sure looks like it is from the Red Oak family.

Is there a Swamp Red Oak?
I looked up Swamp Red Oak, and there is such a tree, but has bark like a red oak and mostly down south. I'm in Central Michigan. And its definately not cherry. The wood looks like cherry, but the bark is wrong and there is plenty of cherry around here.
 
Our forest service guide has white oak, bur oak, and swamp white oak. I would put my two cents towards bur oak just because of the deep furrows in the bark. The branches would have been really corky and nasty and if you find any acorns they are distinct with the long fringy hairs.
As far as uses this is what the Maine book says for bur oak and swamp white oak. "The wood is very durable, hard, heavy and strong. It is used for the same purposes as white oak."
White oak. "The wood is strong, heavy, hard and durable. It is used for ship and boat building, railroad ties, piling, agricultural implements, interior finish, furniture, flooring, pulp and firewood. In the past, it was used for deck planking on ships, tight cooperage (tight casks capable of holding liquid such as whiskey), and spokes and rims of wooden wheels."
 
Yea that looks like swamp oak to me. its not bur oak or cherry. swamp oak is closely related to white oak. bur oak would have darker bark with red furrows and the wood its self would be browner. its not cherry you can tell that by the bark and cherry would have a lighter sapwood. it will probably look more like white oak than red oak once you mill an dry it, its commonly used along side white oak in the manufacture of whisky barrels because the vessels have tielossies (sp.) which is basically resin that has hardened in the vessels making it water tight.

Is that an 038 on the left
 
The chainsaw on the left is an 028 WoodBoss. Its about 22 years old and works great. I did put a 20 inch bar on it though. Whatever wood it is, I think it will be nice looking when I get it planed. It grew in a wet woods. Was a little crowded out , 26 inches wide where I cut it about 2 1/2 feet up. There was some barbed wire low in the tree. 40 feet up to the first branches and it was 18 inches wide up there.:greenchainsaw:
 
that tree is definitely from the white oak family...i would say it is a burr oak (Quercus macrocarpa)-(look for orange inner bark, stout twigs, and big acorns, and a thick sap ring), swamp white oak is also part of the white oak family

there is a southern red oak "Turkey oak", it has deep furrows in the bark and had a leaf the had a long point (leaf looks like a turkeys foot) these trees are a southern species and they do get quite large.
 
I think it is a chestnut oak or a swamp chestnut oak. Geographically you are to the western side of its habitat, but it's possible. The furrows make me lean that way towards the chestnut oak side...

I have 2 standing on the farm, and they look like that bark.

Jason
 
I think it is a chestnut oak or a swamp chestnut oak. Geographically you are to the western side of its habitat, but it's possible. The furrows make me lean that way towards the chestnut oak side...

I have 2 standing on the farm, and they look like that bark.

Jason

looks like chesnut oak
 
definitely not cherry.

it's in the white oak family for sure. your swamp oaks tend to hybridize out in the wild with bur oaks
 
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One way to help identify a hardwood is to look at the leaves on the ground around it. It'll kind of add some info if you can't figure out the tree, and the leaves haven't decayed too much. Snow kind of ruins this though.
 
definitely not cherry.

it's in the white oak family for sure. your swamp oaks tend to hybridize out in the wild with bur oaks

:agree2: That is definitely not cherry. The bur and white oak leaves are very similar in appearance but the bur oak is more "lobe" like. Do you have a picture of a twig with the end buds? If you do I can ID it positively.
 
:agree2: That is definitely not cherry. The bur and white oak leaves are very similar in appearance but the bur oak is more "lobe" like. Do you have a picture of a twig with the end buds? If you do I can ID it positively.
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Here are some pic's I took today. It was hard to find a good leaf with all the snow we have. Glad some of it is melting. I hope these pic's can give you a positive ID. Thanks for everybody help!:blob2:
 
Chinquapin Oak. That's what the leaf looks like to me and in that pic the bark looks more like a Chinquapin than it does in the first ones. Just a guess.
Phil
 
That would be, Swamp Oak (Quercus bicolor). Who would have thought. LOL! Definitely not Bur or Chinkapin oak because the end buds are too short and there are no terminal stipules present.

:cheers:
 
I have some that are similar. The bark is very furrowed like that - almost as much as a cottonwood when large. Branches are very crooked and cankery. I was told that they are burr oak from the arborist that came out to the house. I have one that blew down, about 36 DBH and straight trunk for about 15' then three main branches that are about 18" diameter. It fell into the creek so it will be a bear to get out, but my wife wants it milled and some things made out of it. Heck, I just wanted good firewood, but might be a chance at a chainsaw mill.

It's worthy of pictures if only for suggestions to recover it. Might have to get the dozer to drag it out in sections. It's about 15 feet below grade with a 45* incline.:(
 

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