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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PLMCRZY" data-source="post: 2977942" data-attributes="member: 51609">I raced a buddys ktm 450sxf and i rode it several times when i didnt have a bike. Its junk, it handled crappy, stuff would fall off all the time even after you checked it was tight. O ya and it only had electric start no kick start which was retarded. A mx bike should not have a battery but good ol KTM thought it was a great idea. Ive been around bikes all my life, Ktms are junk in my book. I also hated the way the suspension was setup with no linkage in the rear. Felt funny, i didnt like it. For a bike thats more then a Japanese bike you would think it would be ALOT nicer. Sure the factory FMF pipes are nice but still doesnt change the fact bolts fly off for no reason. I dont know where you think we ride in Tx but there is no place for a Ktm to do 100mph especially in the woods. You mentioned easy stuff as well, Tx holds the ironman every year on the red river. Its one of the hardest races ever. Also there is no way any Ktm except maybe the duke can pull a wheelie at 60mph. Sure the woods guys like them, thats because they are the only company making 2 stroke "WOODS" bikes. Ive rode a 525 as well, sure it would thump, but it handled like a turd and was heavy. I would use it if the race consisted of 2 turns the rest straight aways or turn it into a motard.I dont mean to come off as a ##### but im just giving you my 2 cents, from what ive expierenced.</blockquote>