Let's ventilate those trees from now on!

[pdqdl]

I have a salesman that keeps trying to tell the customers that we will "ventilate their tree". When I confront him, he goes on to ask me what he should be calling the service when we trim the tree....DUH! How about trimming the tree?
(Please don't pick on me too much, I have made thorough & complete explanations of how trimming is done, given him literature, including all the ANSI standards)

Today, while looking up one of my competitors, I find that they ADVERTISE tree ventilation as a service! Since I am not familiar with this kind of tree trimming, perhaps one of the more erudite tree trimmers here at AS can explain it to me.

http://grandviewtree.com/services.htm


Actually, I guess I am just asking how many of you have ever heard of this terminology, or ever sold tree trimming this way.

 

[tree MDS]

There's a guy around here that tells his guys "I want it so a crow can fly through it". I guess you could call that ventilated.. right? lol.

 

[ddhlakebound]

I've come across a past ventilated tree, and bid against a tree ventilator last week.

The first one was a monster silver with four leads stripped to forty feet, and nothing touched above that. Giant decaying wounds up all four leads...by the time they decide to do something it'll probably be a crane removal. The HO was sold the job as "taking all these limbs off will let the air through....that's what it needs"

The other one was a 22"ish silver maple that's about to have a driveway resurfaced 6' from the root flare. Whoever it was I was bidding against suggested cutting off two 10" limbs and a 6"er four feet above the ground "for the health and air flow of the tree". I sold her on a light thinning and tip reduction of those limbs.

Is extreme lions tailing becoming the new topping?

 

[treemandan]

It seems like a logical term for what it implies. I did look at the website an immediatley was given the definition of what the particulars were and it made sense and seemed partial to proper technique. But I will admit the first thing I thought when I first heard the term was a shotgun.

 

[treemandan]

And yes, I often tell people about airflow. Sometimes it has to do with getting air circulation underneath ( mostly overmulched and rotting areas) or high in the canopy to reduce windsail.

 

[tree md]

Well that's a new one on me. I did know a guy back in the day who would sell folks on pressure washing the moss off of the trunks of their trees though...

I guess there are a lot of snake oil salesmen out there. When I bid against someone who has given some ludicrous advise I usually direct them to Guy's pruning page to reinforce what I am trying to tell them.

 

[treemandan]

Well that's a new one on me. I did know a guy back in the day who would sell folks on pressure washing the moss off of the trunks of their trees though...

I guess there are a lot of snake oil salesmen out there. When I bid against someone who has given some ludicrous advise I usually direct them to Guy's pruning page to reinforce what I am trying to tell them.

I do agree its a funny thing to say: ventilate. I imagine though its good conversation when talking to prospective clients as it shows you are litterate...? I dunno.
I have actually seen a couple guys pressure washing trees

 

[treesquirrel]

Air conditioning them is much better.

 

[PaulPollard]

I've heard the term once when pruning a medium-large Norway that had a lot of foliage. Apparently you should ventilate them - punch a hole out of the top of the canopy - to let light into the crown? Nothing big, you don't even have to notice it from the ground. Not the same as thinning.

I don't know, I was in the tree and told to do it so I did it. Made sense to me.

 

[S Mc]

I'm rather curious why it would make sense to "punch a hole" in the crown on a tree species whose natural growth characteristics develop a thick, dense canopy?

Sylvia

 

[Taxmantoo]

When I saw the thread title, I had a vision of somebody climbing with spikes to 'let some air into that trunk'.
:jawdrop:

 

[lone wolf]

been doing this stuff too long and I have never heard that term before.

 

[treeseer]

The description is of crown cleaning; just a weird synonym. The rest of the page looks good; not certified but basically good approaches. Another weird synonym is 'up-lifting" = raising, but not he does it for all the right reasons, and none of the wrong ones.

Looks like knowledgeable competition for ya pq. I would not quibble about terminology--ANSI may redefine pruning types yet again next rewrite. A crown clean by another name looks as sweet.

...I usually direct them to Guy's pruning page to reinforce what I am trying to tell them.

Who has what pruning page???

 

[millbilly]

Sounds like sanitation prunning to me.Another kind of prunning would be cloud prunning,removing certain limbs in the crown to allow more light and air to circulate.

 

[Toddppm]

I've seen some guys call it aeriating too

Kinda funny when they make up their own terms, maybe the customers are impressed with it? If you can't dazzle em with brilliance baffle em with BS.

Amazing that if you talk to some people with enough conviction about what you're saying they'll follow you along. Reminds me of the weather man, always sure of what he's saying but rarely gets it right.

 

[Bearcreek]

Usually when I ventilate a tree it's one that already down and being used as a backstop for a AR 15 or AK.

 

[S Mc]

At least the website fully explains his personal terminology. I always get the feeling that someone is working on personal recognition anytime they start renaming something. Kind of like companies changing the packaging periodically to keep people interested in the same old product line.

As for the information from his website, I would fix the typos. I thought he was doing well other than those until I read the "Removals" section.

Sylvia

 

[murphy4trees]

He mentioned "removing dprouts to promote tree health" as part of the crown cleaning under the catagory "ventilating" ... Since when is removing sprouts good for a trees health Guy? Do we need to kick this ball around the field one more time? I HOPE NOT..

hope you're smilin'

 

[treeseer]

Since when is removing sprouts good for a trees health Guy?
hope you're smilin'

some sprouts, yes. all sprouts, of course not.

Smilin' wide!

 

[TreeClimber57]

When I saw the thread title, I had a vision of somebody climbing with spikes to 'let some air into that trunk'.
:jawdrop:

Almost choked on that one.

I have a BT45 if you want to make bigger "vent" holes.