log truck wanted

[Wolf66]

I would like to look into a med. to large log truck. Prentice or barco loader with bunks and a 20-30 yard removable box. Please let me know asap if anyone has or knows of one 4 sale.

 

[jazak]

How much do you want to spend?

 

[LightningLoader]

grapple truck

why do you want a removeable box? you using this for logging or tree work?

 

[LightningLoader]

may have something for you, but it's a Petersen, not a Prentice, depends on the application whether I would reccomend it for you.

 

[Wolf66]

log truck

I am going to go look at a F-8-- with a barco 40 today. If itwere a diesel and for the price (5k) I would not hesitate. But its a 370 gas gusler. Otherwise, it has 85k on it and new bunks, I would have to rig a box (removable in it. I would like to use the truck mainly for tree service, but also to sell and deliver timber, thats why the removable dump box is a bit important. Problem is the price goes from 5k + to 30k+ 30 is the most I would feel comfortable with loan from bank. I do have a couple of ATV's I could trade as partial trade. One is moto cross set up and 15k invested. other is Polaris 4x4 with very low hours. It is a 2001 4x4, auto with racks, hitch, etc.

 

[jazak]

You don't want to spend over $30K?

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=11083

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=10284

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=11506

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=11182

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=8767

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=10823

Here are some. The last one is more of what I think you're looking but its $45K. All these truck I tried to stay under $45K for you. If you want a decent truck that will last with very little problem you're looking at around $60-75K. Out of all the truck I posted the last one and the 3rd one are the best.


http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=11446 This ones real nice but a little more then I would spend. Its worth about $75K.

 

[LightningLoader]

don't even think about the 4th one on that list. there's a reason it's for sale.

 

[ASD]

don't even think about the 4th one on that list. there's a reason it's for sale.

? do tell

 

[jazak]

agree with LL but he wanted cheap so he's gonna get cheap. I think it was plowed with too and looks beat to sh!t.

 

[Wolf66]

I think the 1992 IHC (the one located in NJ) would be great for the tree service, but not sure how many 10' sections of cherry it can hold; hence is it going to make $ driving 1-2 hours to the sawmill with a load of logs + I am ify about how much that loader can lift.
The one I like the best and at the top of my budget is 1996 GMC Topkick (also on treetrader.com it is truck #10433) I am not great on how to link to this page.
Price 29500
Posted on 3/12/2006 Quantity
Expires on 6/10/2006 Link www.kaisertree.com
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Description
49,999K GVW, Hood 7000 22' Loader w/ Rotobec Grapple; 20' Stake Body Holds 7 cord; Cat 3116 diesel; 6 speed manual trans, rear ta axle: (lift up for short turnng radius, drop down for heavy loads) new clutch, 6 new tires, cab interior is in good shape, truck is road ready, great for tree service or logging, selling because we bought a new truck.



Description
49,999K GVW, Hood 7000 22' Loader w/ Rotobec Grapple; 20' Stake Body Holds 7 cord; Cat 3116 diesel; 6 speed manual trans, rear ta axle: (lift up for short turnng radius, drop down for heavy loads) new clutch, 6 new tires, cab interior is in good shape, truck is road ready, great for tree service or logging, selling because we bought a new truck.

Contact Information
Kaiser Tree
Ames Kaiser
P.O. Box 548
North Kingstown
RI - 02852
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401-640-0216



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[Wolf66]

I cant get the pics in. The truck looks clean and I think is a lot more practable. I wish i could be aproved for 80k and go big, but i am aproved just enough to get this truck and i am trying for a small chipper also (3,500) I may need to drop the chipper a good deal, 1997 bearcat 9" disk chipper with 45 HP ford. I could get the other truck (1992 IHC located in NJ) and the chipper, but I want to make $ on the logs. My family owns property with good lumber and I am also a utility arborist for transmission dept and they will let me take any tree i want. I hear there is good $ in logging. I have verneer cherry and huge white pine trees on my property 50+ pines and a couple dozen cherry. straight clean, no knots. I am hoping this other side of green industry will make me enough $ to upgrade to 18" chipper and other larger equipment in the next couple of years.

 

[jazak]

Just to let you know that 9" chipper si going to be wayy to small. Why not do yourself a favor and drop the log truck idea and get a F-650 chip dump and 12" diesel drum chipper- both will come in around $45,000 max, then you will save $$$ and just sub out when you need the logs taken. You will still make money on the logs even if you have someone else take them for you.

Trucks,
http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=11509

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=11339 (heres a package deal)

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=10578

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=10356 (heres another combo)

http://treetrader.com/cl/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=10202 (another combo)

Its much better to start with a good chipper then a log truck and POS chipper. That way you can already making more $$$ (less problems & more chipping capcitiy) and you can get the knuckleboom later on. I think you won't have a good business if you go down the road you want to. You really don't make so much $$$ from logs and you can just get a guy to come pickk them up for you and you still make $$$$ for doing nothing (almost). I have seen many guys buy little 6" gas chipper and big truck thinking its the truck that does most the work but they turned out to be wrong and most either went out of business or traded the truck and chipper for a better chippper and smaller truck, then a few years later they went out and bought the $60K truck. Just my .02.

BTW if you look around you will find great deals. Found a 04 F-550 15K miles 12' chip dump, 4x4, diesel & 04 Morbark 15 450hr.s both for $50K.

 

[LightningLoader]

? do tell

Lets just say that since I'm in the grapple truck business, I know which of the competitor's units you should watch out for. If it was one of their newer models I wouldn't be so harsh, but I wouldn't buy one that was built before 2003/2004.

 

[LightningLoader]

don't know if you've checked these guys out.
http://www.trucks.com/trucks_inventory.asp?category=39

 

[Wolf66]

These trucks are being sold quickly. i know a 33,000lb GVW is within reach, but will this be caple of lifting large logs (one has prentice 90 loader and 20' bed with 5' sides) Can I lift large heavy trees and could I stack 2 rows of 10' sections up or past the 5' and not be overweighted, will it even handle that?

 

[LightningLoader]

These trucks are being sold quickly. i know a 33,000lb GVW is within reach, but will this be caple of lifting large logs (one has prentice 90 loader and 20' bed with 5' sides)

they're made for lifting large logs (as in pine trees. not 10'x5' oak logs). The Prentice can probibly lift about 8,000lbs up close, but the farther away the load is the less you can lift. Out far it may only be able to lift like 3,000 lbs. Typically they're rated without the bucket, so you have to subtract the weight of the bucket from this too, which should be 600-1000 lbs.

Here's a typical load chart:

10 ft 7,100 lbs
16 ft 4,400 lbs
20 ft 3,200 lbs

Can I lift large heavy trees and could I stack 2 rows of 10' sections up or past the 5' and not be overweighted, will it even handle that?

DO NOT stack the load up past the sides. Major safety issue here. What happens if one of them shifts and swings out to hit a car? Not good.
I don't know how much you can do in terms of hauling that many logs since I don't know how much they weigh. There must be a logger on here that knows what gvwr you need to tow that sized load.

 

[Husky137]

Rough estimate on volume alone, that truck loaded 20'x5'x8' of hardwood logs is going to be in excess of 30K in payload, softwoods less, unless its red pine or hemlock. Don't expect to buy a "medium" duty truck and have it perform "heavy" duty tasks on a daily basis. Stuff will break or you will get caught overloaded.

 

[LightningLoader]

30,000 lbs = 3 times too much payload

30K sounds like way way too much payload for a 33,000 gvwr. Your allowable payload should be somewhere around 10K with such a truck if it has a loader and 24 cubic yard body installed on it.

 

[Wolf66]

I just got aproved for up to 75k and am now looking into tandum axle trucks with dump beds around 55 yards. These trucks are GVW around 70,000. I may even get a tandem with a floater to make it tri axle. One truck that I am interested in is a 1998 Int'l tandem. It has a prentice 120 loader/ 22' dumping steel box, DT 466 250hp 9 spd, The guy from Schultz equipment told me it has 75k on the truck and that it has a serrico 8000 boom, but the pic tells a diffrent story. I think it is 2 diffrent trucks as the one with the prentice reads 250,000 miles. Anyway, he is asking 75K for the truck, does that sound high to you all?

 

[LightningLoader]

I know if you bought a new truck like that but with a 45 cu yd body already mounted it'd be $135,000-$150,000.