Logging estimate

[ktm250rider]

Local logger stopped by this week to see if Id be interested in selling my pine from my property. I had him clear my lot for my house a few years ago and discussed the possiblity of logging the rest (about 35+/- acres). At the time he was pretty busy and I wasnt really interested since I was in the middle of building. Anyways, apparently, the mill he uses is looking for Pine (which I hate and was just cutting it to burn in the woodmaster). No estimates yet but what should I be looking for? One friend of ours mentioned that pine was running about $100 Mbf in the northeast and has gone as high as +/-$220. I mentioned keeping the tops of the pine for burning but figured it would be a giant mess. He mentioned chipping the tops after pulling the logs out of the woods.

 

[bullbuck]

i dont know what a fair price for your pine logs in that area would be,but if you could get an average price for the logs and trust the guy enough that he will clean up as he goes,not after he hauls all the logs off,it could be worth it?

 

[Blazin]

I've been gettin $250/1000bf for white pine here, but that's me cuttin and delivering them to the mill. I've taken a dozen of them PIA mess makers down around my Mom's house in the last month, and have no love for them SOB's either! Get a couple different quotes if you can (would'nt hurt to call a few mills to see what they're paying), and make sure the cleanup is written in black and white also! Good luck!

 

[ktm250rider]

Estimate so far is 125,000 bf of white pine and about 50,000 bf of hemlock.

 

[bullbuck]

Estimate so far is 125,000 bf of white pine and about 50,000 bf of hemlock.

here in n.m.there is a mill that pays 200$ a thousand delivered for any specie, wich i think is very good!,we only have softwood saw logs here

 

[2dogs]

I've been gettin $250/1000bf for white pine here, but that's me cuttin and delivering them to the mill. I've taken a dozen of them PIA mess makers down around my Mom's house in the last month, and have no love for them SOB's either! Get a couple different quotes if you can (would'nt hurt to call a few mills to see what they're paying), and make sure the cleanup is written in black and white also! Good luck!

Yep!

 

[ktm250rider]

Current prices in Central NH

AVERAGE STUMPAGE VALUE LIST
Suggested for the CENTRAL Region of N.H.
April 1, 2009 – September 31, 2009
Available at www.nh.gov/revenue
LOW VALUE:
LARGE LOGGING COSTS, POOR ACCESSIBILITY OR LOW GRADE TIMBER

HIGH VALUE:
SMALL LOGGING COSTS, GOOD ACCESSIBILITY, OR HIGH GRADE TIMBER

White Pine
$ 80.00-$150.00
Hemlock
$ 25.00-$ 40.00

 

[Gologit]

Current prices in Central NH

AVERAGE STUMPAGE VALUE LIST
Suggested for the CENTRAL Region of N.H.
April 1, 2009 – September 31, 2009
Available at www.nh.gov/revenue
LOW VALUE:
LARGE LOGGING COSTS, POOR ACCESSIBILITY OR LOW GRADE TIMBER

HIGH VALUE:
SMALL LOGGING COSTS, GOOD ACCESSIBILITY, OR HIGH GRADE TIMBER

White Pine
$ 80.00-$150.00
Hemlock
$ 25.00-$ 40.00

It doesn't look real good. If you can be sure you're getting honest scale and the wood is of high enough quality to come out on net scale you might make it. By the time you pay the logger, pay the taxes on whatever profit there might be, and figure costs for rehab and cleanup of the land there might not be much left for you.

You might also check your homeowner's insurance to see if you're covered in case of the logger having an accident. He himself might not sue you but you can bet his insurance company will.

If you don't really need to cut the timber now why not just wait. If the economy recovers a little and the market for timber comes up your trees will be just that much bigger. And worth more.

 

[ktm250rider]

By the time you pay the logger,

Hmm, I figured the quote I got for $135 per mbf was coming to me. I guess im gonna clearify that with him.

 

[Gologit]

Hmm, I figured the quote I got for $135 per mbf was coming to me. I guess im gonna clearify that with him.

LOL...Yeah, get all this stuff figured out ahead of time. A written contract isn't a bad idea either if you have any doubts at all. It saves a lot of yelling and screaming later on.

You might also want to read up on gross scale and net scale. If your logger has anything on the ball at all he should be able to tell you pretty close how much defect they'll be deducting for at the mill. I imagine it's pretty much the same back there as out here...some mills, especially the smaller low volume outfits, are notorious for their gross/net ratio.

 

[ktm250rider]

Well, hes gonna start in a couple weeks. Will be nice to thin out the lot which will help with my woods practice trail and eventual motocross track.

 

[bullbuck]

Well, hes gonna start in a couple weeks. Will be nice to thin out the lot which will help with my woods practice trail and eventual motocross track.

singletrack and moto eh?you got some nice loamy soil in those parts?

 

[ktm250rider]

Loam, not really. Mostly rocks and roots with a little dirt mixed in. Sort of like some of the stuff out there in Colorado, minus the 13000 feet of elevation. Just got back from the Colorado 500, riding in Aspen, Crested butte, Snowmass. Terrain felt very similar.

 

[bullbuck]

Loam, not really. Mostly rocks and roots with a little dirt mixed in. Sort of like some of the stuff out there in Colorado, minus the 13000 feet of elevation. Just got back from the Colorado 500, riding in Aspen, Crested butte, Snowmass. Terrain felt very similar.

i am actually live in southern new mexico,but yes you gotta like riding rocks t like riding here,we got a couple small private moto tracks up here,gotta find a good dirt hole and truck the dirt to the track,lots of work

 

[ktm250rider]

They just dropped off the feller buncher. Damn that thing is cool. I have only seen them on TV, never up close. May have to go in to work late tomorrow.

 

[Blazin]

Cool...post up some pics when you can!

 

[slowp]

Cool...post up some pics when you can!

But stay away from the buncher unless he shuts it down. Stay far away.

 

[ktm250rider]

Yeah, they cleared out the landing this morning which is just out a short ways from the garage. I figured that would have been a perfect time to finally see one of them things in action. I had a meeting to get to at work so I couldnt go in late. Oh well, maybe the keys are in it.
So the wife calls me at 8 to tell me how cool the thing is. Which doesnt happen very often when it comes to machinary. They got the landing cleared, stumped and a couple roads started with the buncher.

 

[ASD]

with out pic's

 

[Mike Van]

Just guessing you got all the issues hammered out?