“Hiring climbers 30/hr minimum 3 years experience” if you are making a post like this legitimately dont bother. The only guys really going to work for someone else are new and probably have 0 experience climbing for someone else. If they did why would they work for you? You arent even offering commission and if you did you would try to make the climber do a 50/50 split then pay each of his ground guys 10 percent so he takes home 30% 3,000x.30=300 so you really are paying him that. 300/10=30. Vs of they do it themselves they can pay each of their ground guys like 300-500 a piece and still take home 6 times what you are paying them. “Oh but insurance” insurance can be covered in one job a million dollar insurance policy is like 3k a year from what i have seen. I imagine dumb people don't last long as climbers, so maybe don't treat them like they are dumb. Paying a climber 300$ a day is spitting in their mouth and asking them to say thank you.
Looking for cheap overqualified climbers? Stop looking.
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So, what are you suggesting is an appropriate pay rate?
Actually 30% would be fine lmao i cant do math ig. i am gonna buy rope and jump from a tree 30% on a 3000$ job is 900. I was drunk. 300 a day is not enough and everyone practically speaking knows it. 10% on a job where you have a realistic chance to die isnt gonna cut it i dont think.
Many of my long time friends were tree trimmers / logging, most retired now.
10% chance of dieing seems pessimistic.
Had one friend fall and left crippled but not one life lost around here.
More tree stand deaths.
Equipment has come a long ways, I'd be curious about the actual percentage of casualties.
10% chance of dieing seems pessimistic.
Had one friend fall and left crippled but not one life lost around here.
More tree stand deaths.
Equipment has come a long ways, I'd be curious about the actual percentage of casualties.
Sound like you're drunk again. Try a response sober.
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Input from professional climbing arborist and new member @Lee the Treebarian would be interesting.
https://www.arboristsite.com/threads/new-member-old-climber-looking-for-work.377446/#post-8350319
https://www.arboristsite.com/threads/new-member-old-climber-looking-for-work.377446/#post-8350319
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900 a day is reasonable other wise your employees would leave the way i plan on doing it if i ever get to that point is 50% to the climber 10% to the two ground guys then i keep 30%. Realistically if you dont want to learn to climb i wouldn't hire you. 300$ for doing nothing is reasonable and would give the climber a reason to not go start his own company. Now if the climber is new its a different story but you guys pay good experienced climbers what you pay new climbers. Realistically once i get my business set up i could go work for my self 3 days a month and make more than you would pay me for working more. It just doesnt make sense. I plan on contract climbing too. Employers are just greedy. You shouldnt really be making that much more than your employees unless you own a bug company. Growth/retention model vs parasitic model. Its really dependent on most people just not wanting to go through the head ache of starting a business.
also you should still be climbing when you are running it. if you are at the age you cant climb anymore and didnt grow your business enough to be able to afford this model then that is honestly a you problem. The climber does the work, all you do is provide the work. 30% fee for finding you the job is reasonable.
