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Dennis

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While Ken and I have discussed this for several months now, I am finally going to do it.

I will start building two different stages of modified saws. Stage 2 and 3. My current saws are a Stage 3 saw.

I will give a basic breakdown of the two stages.

Stage 2

Intake port timing & port matching
Exhaust port timing & port matching
Open up the muffler.
Polishing.

Stage 3

Intake port timing & port matching.
Exhaust port timing & port matching.
Open up the muffler.
Polishing.
Transfer port timing.
Ignition timing.
Carb work.
Squish band.
Piston work.

Stage 2- 175usd plus shipping
Stage 3- 250usd plus shipping

Any other questions, please dont hesitate to call or email me.

Dennis
250-674-3562
[email protected]
 
Otto, Walkers build a good saw for the money they charge, and they have been doing it for years.

I personally cant tear a saw down that far without doing all the modifications. It will be tough for me just doing the Stage 2, knowing the saw can have more work done to it to make it better.
But it seems there is a market for the Stage 2, as not everyone can afford the extra 250 on top of the saw, but still yet want a better running, longer lasting saw.:D
 
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Hello Dennis,
That looks pretty good. your stage two will still outcut the other shops saws. Keep up the good work. I think tundraotto will be you first customer
ken
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530-589-2744
 
Dennis,
How much will you charge me for Stage 4?

Ken,
New timing key works fine. There's no drop starting it now without using the compression release. Even on the ground with my right foot on the rear and left hand on the front, it still tries to rip my fingers off of the starting handle. And boy does it rev now. Snappy throttle response is great.

Thanks to both Dennis and Ken for helping me make the 3120 into a real woods screamer. Now, bring on that 088 and its pesky owner.
 
Originally posted by dbabcock
There's no drop starting it now without using the compression release. Even on the ground with my right foot on the rear and left hand on the front, it still tries to rip my fingers off of the starting handle. ........
Have you picked up a Stihl ElastoStart handle yet? Might make those starts easier, and your starter rope should last longer too.
 
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Yeah, the Elastostart. I might try one, but I'm thinking of a snowmobile handle if that's the case. No problem starting it if I take the admittedly less manly route of using the comp release.
 
Doug I have elsto start type handle on my modded XC 800. It works great. You think your 3120 is hard to start. Try pulling over my sled in -20 degree weather.
 
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Back on topic

Dennis,
What are the approximate costs and procedures for shipping across the border? I've never dealt with shipping/receiving between US and Canada, but I've heard horror stories. Perhaps if you give a synopsis of the procedure, more of us Americans can realistically consider the costs of having a saw modified.

I figure if I walk into UPS without any info other than your address, I'll probably get screwed.
 
Brian...I know we covered some of the shipping across border aspects before on another thread, but hell, I cant remember where either...

To ship to Canada, the main thing to remember, is to put "Warranty Repair and Return" on the documents. The commercial value cannot exceed 20 bucks. But you can insure it for whatever amount you like. There is a harmonized code one can also use for the documents. I just cant remember it...Gypo has it.
From what I have seen...general cost is about 30-40 usd to ship here...but only about 25 usd to ship back....I have found the postal service the best so far...with only one screwup to date...I dislike UPS....Fedex was great till they told me they only deliver, not pickup in my town:confused:
 
Ben,
I know what you mean. I have a Modded MXZx 800 and a modded ZR 800. The Crank Shop up in Vermont is doing me up an 1100 rotary valve triple for my pro stock sled chassis as we speak. Maybe I'll put an Elastostart on that one, too! That XC 800 is a nice unit. I used to have a Polaris 600 triple that I turbocharged. Once I put an o-ringed billet head on it, it ran very reliably with the 15 pounds of boost that I had it cranked to (yes, it was alcohol injected and intercooled).

BTW, I don't let lack of snow or ice stop me from running either.
 
UPS and Shipping to Canada

Hi Brian and anyone else who is interested, shipping to Canada in my experience is a crap shoot. The item will probably get there, but in what shape and how much it will cost you are big variables. The first saw I shipped to Dennis, a 385, was shipped from a local shop "Parcel Post" so I am assuming USPS. It cost $40 and arrived 10 days later in a box that must have been dragged behind the truck. Just by pure luck nothing was missing or broken although the box was ripped open. The next saw, a 357 shipped from the same shop via the same means of transport for $30 and arrived unscathed, although it was held up in Customs for a bit. I don`t know if these shipments were insured but I was not assesed any brokerage fee for paperwork when they got to Dennis. The 260 Pro and the Camo Poulan I sent went via UPS. Under $30 apiece insured. Checked with the UPS people about the exact wording of the shipping manifest to insure that there would be no tarriffs for "Return and Repair", there were not, but since I had chosen to insure these shipments, I got hit with a $50 brokerage fee on the Stihl when it arrived at Dennis` shop. The Poulan for Dennis inexplicably had no such fee. So the point is, yes, you can ship "Repair and Return" and be duty free with a declared value of less than $20, but if you want to insure your package you MUST declare a value of the item and pay an additional fee for the insurance, and this leads to the calculation of the brokerage fees by UPS Canada. I did not have a warm fuzzy feeling about shipping a new box clearly labeled with Stihl and MS260 plastered all over the outside without insuring it after hearing so many horror stories of lost saws. Shipping from Canada to me has always been quick and trouble free, both from Dennis and Walkers, no nasty surprises. The people from UPS Canada whom I called when I got buggered with the brokerage fee were the most rude people I have ever dealt with on the phone, and bear in mind I was trying to get a refund so I was using my "honey" tongue when I spoke to them. They were perturbed that I would even suggest a refund of an undisclosed and usurious fee, and when I finally suggested that I would have to find a different means of shipment to Canada they essentially concurred, since I didn`t like they SERVICE they provided. Bear in mind also that this wasn`t just one phone rep, I spoke to people all the way to the manager level. For future saw mods done in Canada, unless it was a pet saw that I had to have built, I`d suggest buying from Dennis, or if you have to have a Stihl, Walker`s who can set you up even though they are not dealers, and avoid the hassles and additional expense of the initial shipment there. I checked with a local post office about the cost of shipping a 260 to Dennis, after the brokerage fee fiasco, and it would have been about $40 dollars insured and they could not tell me if there would be any additional fees for brokerage once it got to Canada. You`d think I was shipping to a third world country or something. I will put much more research into any future shipments north of the border. Russ
 
Thanks Russ, for your expieriences in shipping to Canada. You have confirmed what I have heard before. I talked to Dennis and was going to send him my 372, but I just don't want to take the chance. Nothing against Dennis, but when I get a few extra $ I'm going to send it to Dozerdan and save the hassle.
 
WOW! I guess I sent the wrong message DaveB. I was trying to convey that it isn`t cut and dried or intuitively simple, hence I will do much more research before I do it again. I imagine that thousands of shipments cross the border in both directions daily with no undue hassles, there must be a way, just that whomever has the right info is not sharing it with the rest of us. I certainly did not mean to direct business away from Dennis because of the shipping trouble I have had. Russ
 
Hi Russ. no you didn't direct any business from Dennis in my case. I made that decision a while ago. I would like to have Dennis work over my saws, but I am just not willing to deal with the potential for problems that may arise. Sorry if you misunderstood the point of my reply. I think that you make a good point for buying a new saw from Dennis.
 
Nothing has ever really been a problem for me sending sh!t back and forth across the border to Dennis. Sometimes it is held up by a few days, but that's about it.
 

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