Move over Distel an old dog is back

[Tim Gardner]

Here are a few pictures of a hitch I found that resemble the Distel and Schwabisch. After testing it on 16 strand against the Distel and Schwabisch I am convinced it works better. It does not seem to lock down as hard as the Distel. I am still using a 4 & 3 vt because it is the best I have ever climbed with but this one works great too. Stumper, jump in here at any time. I am sure you recognize the hitch. It is normally used with just the bottom leg tied to the snap. Has anyone else used this hitch before?

 

[Tim Gardner]

Here it is expanded for a better view of how it is tied.

 

[Stumper]

Like Brian I used to climb on an open prusik /improved tautline. The rolled over bottom wrap is new to me. Hmmmm... another hitch to try.

 

[Mahk]

Originally posted by Tim Gardner
Here are a few pictures of a hitch I found

Tim;

Where did you find it? Was there any name or reference given?

I would call it a variation of the Schwabisch, which is just an asymmetrical prusik (i.e. the legs come out at the bottom of the knot rather than in the middle).

On The Site That Cannot Be Named I listed some other knots that are 'new' to arborists, but have been used and published in other vertical rope applications for years. If you are interested go to that site and see my post in the thread 'Training a New Climber' under the forum 'Climber's Talk'.

Mahk

 

[Tim Gardner]

Re: Re: Move over Distel an old dog is back

Originally posted by Mahk
Tim;

Where did you find it? Was there any name or reference given?

I would call it a variaition of the Schwabisch, which is just an asymmetrical prusik (i.e. the legs come out at the bottom of the knot rather than in the middle).


Mahk

Here is a hint: #1744

The difference in the hitch I tied and the one I found is I added a third wrap on top and used both legs to tie to the biner.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

That looks like an Un-dressed Schwabisch to me

If one of the turns in a barrel knot is rolled over, it becomes an anchor bendor, I think, you could call it an Empty Barrel...

Tom

 

[Tim Gardner]

Originally posted by Tom Dunlap
That looks like an Un-dressed Schwabisch to me



Tom

Check the book Tom. #1744

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Yowza! Der 'tiz...Bartlett they say. There must have been some lubbers on the crews back in the day.

1741 tied closed is interesting

Look to the left page. Do you see anything familiar in 1756,1758 or 1762?

Tom

 

[Tim Gardner]

One of the reasons I liked #1744 tied like my pic is that it does not spread out under load like the Distel. Seems to divide the load over the two legs better too. I am hoping that it is better on cord wear.

What about 1763. I see a lot of knots and hitches in here that have new names now.

 

[Mahk]

Thanks!!

Mahk

 

[Drummer]

"the book"

What, pray tell, is the name of the referenced book?
Thanks,
Roger

 

[Tom Dunlap]

ABOK

Ashley's Book of Knots

You can find it used on the net pretty cheap.

Tom